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I’ll compare 2026 to others. Here’s 2026 with its first strong -SOI period not til days 98-102: 2026 98 1010.27 1010.30 -17.45 2026 99 1009.30 1011.45 -32.74 2026 100 1009.19 1011.45 -33.53 2026 101 1009.56 1011.00 -27.62 2026 102 1010.69 1010.75 -17.67 1) 1994: already had strong -SOI days 75-90: 1994 75 1009.95 1009.25 -16.33 1994 76 1011.21 1009.00 -9.08 1994 77 1010.30 1008.65 -11.78 1994 78 1009.25 1009.30 -19.92 1994 79 1009.33 1009.25 -19.32 1994 80 1010.65 1008.60 -9.86 1994 81 1011.61 1009.45 -9.32 1994 82 1012.00 1010.25 -11.30 1994 83 1010.73 1009.80 -15.23 1994 84 1009.74 1010.30 -22.37 1994 85 1011.13 1011.00 -19.08 1994 86 1012.49 1011.90 -16.86 1994 87 1012.66 1011.95 -16.27 1994 88 1012.31 1012.15 -18.90 1994 89 1012.79 1011.85 -15.19 1994 90 1012.12 1011.85 -18.36 2) 1997: already had strong -SOI days 81-90: 1997 81 1011.33 1011.55 -20.69 1997 82 1009.53 1010.25 -23.08 1997 83 1009.46 1010.35 -23.92 1997 84 1009.17 1010.95 -28.17 1997 85 1009.38 1011.65 -30.50 1997 86 1008.01 1011.85 -38.04 1997 87 1007.55 1011.15 -36.91 1997 88 1010.10 1010.60 -22.07 1997 89 1011.92 1011.00 -15.24 1997 90 1011.97 1010.55 -12.85 3) 2002: already had strong -SOI days 72-80 2002 72 1010.71 1012.50 -28.24 2002 73 1010.25 1011.40 -25.18 2002 74 1011.11 1011.10 -19.62 2002 75 1010.70 1010.90 -20.63 2002 76 1009.60 1010.35 -23.27 2002 77 1010.04 1010.55 -22.13 2002 78 1012.20 1010.55 -11.78 2002 79 1013.25 1010.20 -5.07 2002 80 1010.45 1008.90 -12.26 4) 2004: already had strong -SOI days 87-97 2004 87 1010.56 1010.65 -20.11 2004 88 1009.84 1011.25 -26.42 2004 89 1009.20 1011.25 -29.49 2004 90 1008.64 1011.75 -34.56 2004 91 1007.47 1011.75 -40.16 2004 92 1006.10 1012.30 -61.94 2004 93 1005.85 1012.25 -63.38 2004 94 1006.74 1011.55 -51.92 2004 95 1005.93 1011.20 -55.23 2004 96 1007.71 1011.00 -40.96 2004 97 1008.59 1010.60 -31.73 5) 2014: already had strong -SOI days 73-80 2014 73 1010.53 1009.55 -14.98 2014 74 1009.38 1010.70 -25.99 2014 75 1008.55 1009.75 -25.42 2014 76 1009.09 1010.40 -25.94 2014 77 1009.21 1009.75 -22.26 2014 78 1007.89 1010.20 -30.73 2014 79 1007.49 1009.30 -28.34 2014 80 1009.69 1008.25 -12.78 6) 2015: already had strong -SOI days 67-79: 2015 67 1007.50 1008.10 -22.55 2015 68 1008.11 1008.65 -22.26 2015 69 1008.73 1008.20 -17.14 2015 70 1009.33 1008.65 -16.42 2015 71 1009.24 1008.45 -15.89 2015 72 1009.91 1007.55 -8.38 2015 73 1010.42 1007.65 -6.42 2015 74 1010.41 1008.90 -12.45 2015 75 1006.90 1010.15 -35.23 2015 76 1005.66 1009.05 -35.90 2015 77 1008.13 1008.65 -22.16 2015 78 1010.35 1009.55 -15.84 2015 79 1008.79 1011.20 -31.21 7) Even the non-Nino 2012, which psyched out the Euro, had an earlier strong negative period: 2012 90 1011.39 1009.80 -12.06 2012 91 1009.90 1010.70 -23.50 2012 92 1010.45 1011.70 -26.25 2012 93 1012.60 1012.20 -14.35 2012 94 1012.53 1013.55 -24.59 2012 95 1011.19 1013.45 -33.53 2012 96 1010.10 1012.15 -32.01 2012 97 1009.94 1011.85 -31.01 2012 98 1009.98 1011.60 -28.91 2012 99 1010.16 1011.65 -27.98 2012 100 1011.50 1011.45 -16.87 OTOH, 2026’s strong -SOI is ahead of 2006, 2009, 2018, and 2023.
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Chris, 1. The writeup you linked us to specifies what we already knew: the U.S. now incorporates RONI for its official ENSO updates vs the Euro still not doing so. So, to approximate RONI based on the current difference, ~0.5C should be subtracted from the Euro progs since they are still predicting a straight ONI. 2. The following shows that although the Euro’s too warm ASO ONI prog was highest for April progs in 2017 (+1.4), it was also significantly too warm in 2025 (+0.8), 2022 (+0.7), 2021 (+0.6), 2020 (+0.8), 2014 (+1.2), and 2012 (+0.6). Moreover, misses to the cold side were much less frequent and smaller. So, based on averaging out the misses, a notable warm bias is evident although it isn’t as large when El Niño actually verifies. None of this means ONI will definitely verify colder than the April Euro prog, but rather to not be surprised if it verifies several tenths colder based on a bias corrected ONI prog:
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Today from JB: any comments? Is he making sense saying that in the cold season it’s harder to get record cold further N?? That doesn’t sound right. What am I missing? Aren’t SDs/variances larger at higher latitudes? See what I bolded below. OTOH, due to GW, if he had said it’s harder to get record cold than record heat, I’d agree. So, in that regard, much of AK/Canada having its coldest March on record in this 2-3F warmer world certainly is quite remarkable. From JB: Comment on the March Hype Wave “Yes it was a heat wave and for the US in March it was unprecedented in times of reliable records But countering it was Canada and especially Alaska which was brutally cold This winter (2025-26) was the coldest on record in Fairbanks, surpassing the previous record set in 1965-66. Now think about this as far as the greater deviation The colder it gets, the harder it is to get colder in the cold season. If you have an extremely cold place, and Fairbanks is a longstanding site. So this is remarkable. The deviation from normal both high and low in NAMER was about the same. But at lower temperatures its easier to get it that much warmer than it is at colder temps. So the cold in Canada was more impressive than the warmth in the US as far as competing against the averages, if one is considering the fact that in cold areas in their cold season, its harder to get it that cold over a 30 day period” However, later he says this, which I agree with since variances in summer are not as large as March: “Now lets look at the March map again off the PSL site. you have got areas 12 above normal in the time of the year when its much easier to get that warm, then when you are at the hottest time of the year, pulling this off like 1934,1936 is much harder to do.” ——————— PHX was 6.5 warmer than any other Mar on record whereas Fairbanks was only 2.4 colder than any other Mar on record. But, 2.4 colder in a warmer world might be about as impressive. Opinions?
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My water bills are looking to be outrageously high, but I have no choice if I want to keep the grass healthy.
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UKMET has been one of the better models in recent years. It’s going ~+2.05 for Sep ONI and would likely rise a few more tenths from there. Then take off ~0.5 to convert to RONI. So, ~+1.5-1.6 C RONI in Sept and rising per UKMET. Euro ONI is just over +2.2 in Sept and rising, but it has tended to verify too warm although not as much warm bias verified on average in actual El Niños. This all suggests to me a mid to high grade strong RONI peak as of now. I’ll continue to update.
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I’ve been sprinkling the yards recently. The drought in this area and especially to the SW is about the most severe in the entire SE with widespread D3 (extreme) here to D4 (exceptional) in SC GA to NC FL. See map below. Although it’s unpredictable, the good news is that a strong El Niño appears to be on the way. If that verifies, much of the SE should see wet relief by November based on history and long range models:
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Yeah, that’s what I have. I find it amazing that there were none for the 68 winters between 1888-9 and 1957-8. I wonder whether or not this is random, especially considering there were 7 over the subsequent 68 winters 1957-8 through 2024-5!
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Add to those using a peak of 2+ RONI for 1950+: 1888-9, 1957-8, 1965-6, 1972-3, 1991-2
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Nov: NMME is warmer than its prior run and much more E based than Cansips Modoki: Nov SSTa NMME latest run: Nov SSTa NMME prior run: Nov SSTa Cansips
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The 4/23 ONI fcasts: BoM much too warm and Euro/CFS/UK somewhat too warm. Actual JAS +1.37 1. BoM: +2.17 for JAS or 0.80 too warm 2. Euro: +1.57 for JAS or 0.20 too warm 3. CFSv2: +1.56 for JAS or 0.19 too warm 4. UKMET: +1.58 for JAS or 0.21 too warm OTOH, the avg of all 17 dynamicals was +1.33, which was almost perfect. ONI history: https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/oni.ascii.txt 4/23 ONI forecasts: https://iri.columbia.edu/our-expertise/climate/forecasts/enso/2023-April-quick-look/?enso_tab=enso-sst_table
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This tweet is deceptive. I’m surprised the smart pro met. Ethan said this. Of course the SSTs are significantly warmer than 29 years ago due to GW. But you know that the measure of Nino strength isn’t SST but rather SSTa. Relative SSTa: 02APR1997 1.1 -0.3 0.1 1.1 01APR2026 0.6 -0.3 -0.2 0.3 So, per relative anomalies, not only is 2026 not warmer than 1997, it is 0.5 cooler in 1+2, 0.3 cooler in 3.4, and 0.8 cooler in 4! https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/rel_wksst9120.txt @mitchnick
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Also, there was 2/9-10/1973 and 3/24/1983 in large parts of the SE. Regardless of snow or not, the relatively predictable thing about strong El Niños is their tendency to be wet Nov-Mar in most of the SE.
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Webb exhibits at times a tone that borders on being over the top to get attention. “Hilariously strong”?
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I fully get that 1877-8 is as strong as any El Niño on record based on Nino 3.4 as Eric Webb’s and other tables show. But it’s the H5 maps that were shocking to see since I had never seen any H5 maps before the late 1940s. Now after reading what you posted above, I realize this 1877-8 H5 is no more than the equivalent of a wild educated guess as all it is based on is surface data as that’s all the only data they have.
