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Yeah, this might even reach hurricane intensity before land interaction. The strong convention looks aligned. Would be nice to have recon.

SSTs are plenty warm for high MPI. As has been reiterated, size and timing for the broader surface circulation to spawn a tighter vortex in the NW Caribbean/NE Yucatán/Channel/WCuba and placement of mid-to-upper trough/ULL are the biggest factors on intensity. A few hundred miles could be a huge factor on the shear axis ranging from a sheared TC to a well-ventilated one. Obviously, the uptick in intensity ranges on the OPs and ensemble suites are troubling, but in this time-frame, pretty much anything is still on the table. There are still uncertainties on ridge vs upper trough placement as well; therefore, residents in the western Peninsula still need to watch closely regardless if there has been more focus resolved on the Panhandle region.

Nice breakdown by Hazelton.

Low background pressures and intense convective bursting throughout central America this afternoon. The broad surface trough slowly organizing and should resemble a CAG over the next 24-36 hours. At that point, we'll have to start focusing on the NW Caribbean for any potential vorticity that may spin off NE of the monsoonal surface flow. Heavy rains and flooding have already been an issue in Guatemala, Nicaragua, and Costa Rica today.

That probably did assist the TC in reorganizing.

I should clarify that the RSMCs in the Pacific did stop issuing advisories on Yagi when the remnants crossed into Myanmar. Though the surface low never dissipated. So technically, the TC did lose TC classification. But the low reorganized into a deep depression over the NIO and Ganges River delta region.

Unfortunately, it looks like the number of fatalities from Yagi will surpass 1k. Estimates as high as 10k are still missing and over 250k displaced. The aftermath to central Myanmar may have been the worst; some of the most severe flooding in decades has occurred there. Believe it or not, Yagi has never fully dissipated. The remnants regained some organization in the upper North Indian Ocean and brought torrential rains to Bangladesh and India. In fact, the circulation and convective envelope still looks like an organized tropical cyclone despite the center being far inland into NE India. Yagi will be retired. It is now the deadliest Pacific TC since Haiyan.

It looks like low-level vorticity is detaching from the front. Indeed, the intense training of supercells into SE North Carolina looks more like a feeder band versus the warm boundary layer further north. You can see the surface circulation right over North Myrtle with offshore flow now SW of tilted closed circulation. Low banding clouds are becoming more evident on the backside of the warm core surface vortex. However, the timing may just be too late here. It appears the surface low is going to make landfall before TCG can complete, and this system will not get named. I'm not sure how that will affect insurance claims with it not being a classified tropical cyclone. Unfortunately, the flash flooding that is ongoing looks to continue into the evening, as the dominate intense band north if the surface low does not appear to be waning. The 15+ inch totals are pushing inland now to communities like Bolivia. This area just got hit hard by an unclassified tropical low a few months ago. The inland flooding potential looks worse here than that former event.

The system remains non-tropical. All you need to do is look at the motion of the low-level cloud field on visible. The surface low still has frontal characteristics. Regardless, Carolina Beach is getting smashed with extremely high rain rates right now. Hopefully, the core of this firehose doesn't pivot over Wilmington.

Wrong thread, sir.

This scenario is why the PTC designation is great. Allows advisory packages and watches/warnings while also allowing meteorological transitions to complete. NHC is essentially waiting for the loss of frontal attachment here. It is very close and most likely goes straight to Helene.

It does not mean they won't simulate them for tracking purposes, but they don't simulate ocean coupling the same way as TC models and do not handle intensification realistically. The NAM, HRRR and RAP code simulate them as assymetric or baroclinic warm core surface lows. They do not simulate intensification accurately, which is why their handling of intensity is usually overdone. I'm going to add to this a lot more. The NAM, HRRR and RAP are designed to simulate development and intensification of convection (precipitation, thunderstorms, etc.) within the confines of diabetic processes (heat exchange) between vapor and air parcel associated with diffluence (spreading wind vectors), frontal boundaries, surface troughs versus ridges, upper lows, surface lows, etc., for atmospheric lift/instability. Tropical lows are surface lows just like baroclinic surface warm core, but they are powered by latent heat release off of SST evaporation, which is not the same as latent heat release from air parcel and dew point derrived instability over land. Why am I explaining this? Simply put, the convection models mentioned above, by their design, cannot handle the latent heat release of SSTs correctly, so they overdo convection, which starts a feedbak loop. This inflates convection, driving down simulated pressures, which in turn over-intensifies the tropical surface low. This feedbak loop is kept in check over land where, again, dew points and diabetic processes drive convection. The feedbak loop is why the NAM, for example, will show hurricane over water bottoming out way lower in pressure than what is realistic. Convection over land is, of course, what those models were designed to correctly simulate in mesoscale and baroclinic processes. That is their purpose and also why we may switch to them after a hurricane makes landfall, as they then become excellent for simulating what the surface low will do over land for land-derrived convection. Hope this helps. Year after year we always scream not to use the high resolution convection models in the tropical threads, but perhaps an explanation as to why we don't use them will deter people from posting them? Meh, who am I kidding? Long story short, do not use the NAM, HRRR or RAP products for tropical lows over water. After they make landfall? Sure...

94L has been a pestering nuisance. I kept waving it off. But it kept pulsing convection just enough. Glad it's finally squashed. Gordon is an excellent example of the continued unusual stable state of the MDR during peak ASO. Typically, by mid-September, we see higher latitude CV systems that go through TCG eventually go on to thrive in the central Atlantic to reach hurricane intensity. But Gordon isn't impressing me much. Interesting comments/thread by Webb on reinforced stability across the MDR by a strengthening Summer +NAO here:

Hrmm... 94L is looking quite interesting this morning. Against low odds, the previous light convective bursting has finally given way to deeper persistent convection overnight. This invest already had a small vortex. The disturbance had just failed to maintain any prolonged convection with a notable west wind at the surface on ASCAT. That may be changing, however. Could this be a real player now? Modeling support has remained abysmal.

Surge is starting to move into Dulac per chaser Aaron Jayjack. Hope he didn't make a bad decision by going too far south. He's normally pretty savvy. But if he gets cutoff south of Dulac, he'll have to ride out the surge in place as it continues to rise.

I should have prefaced that it's also a bit early. Let the eyewall come ashore and give the datasets time to update. Hope that the surge is mitigated, but these are unknowns. We'll just have to hope for the best and wait and see.

[mention=2227]wthrmn654[/mention] The onshore flow is going to be a problem for areas east of the eye. Those places you posted are experiencing offshore flow. I'd focus on eastern Terrebonne Parish, Montegut, Chauvin, especially Coco Marina at the end of Little Caillou Rd, and points further east, for worst surge presently based on current motion.

Eye clearing out a bit right at landfall. Nice convective burst going up over the NE quadrant. Probably too late to correspond to much of a pressure fall, but the deepening convection moving over land may translate to wind gusts mixing down with more force for places like Houma, Amelia and Morgan City as the eyewall passes over.

I am not trying to be argumentative in my response here, but I am lost on any correlation, much less causation with respect to sunspot activity and solar influences as inhibiting factors for cyclogenesis. During the same long-duration interseasonal quiet stretch in the Atlantic basin, we saw active stretches in the western and eastern Pacific basins. Solar influences should not discriminate between bodies of water. We have plenty of evidence of phenomenon contained within the troposphere to hypothesize why the Atlantic has struggled versus the WPAC and EPAC. Greater stability across the MDR due to +2-3°C warmer tropopause is among the evidence. But attributing that to sunspot activity seems more of a stretch than SPH placement, MJO, and meridional SSTs negative feedback to counter atmospheric lift versus subsidence.

At present, the eye is easily discerned on visible satellite. The structure represents what we are seeing on radar. The more intense echoes of the north and western eyewall is where the deepest convection persists on satellite.

94L grabs the eye due to a vigorous exposed mesoconvective vortex (MCV) left spinning in the mid levels. That feature is exposed, and though easy to see on visible, associated convection is waning. I'm more interested in 92L. Persistent convection may eventually allow its mid level circulation to drill down. There is notable westerly flow to the low-level cloud motion south of the wave axis. In short, I'm not really impressed by either, and both systems lack model support. We'll see if 92L can get its act together. It could still be a threat to the NE Antilles if it does develop.

NHC will initiate advisories on AL072024 or TD07 at 11AM AST. This was formerly Invest 93L near the Cabo Verdes. I don't think it warrants a new thread as it is too far into the eastern MDR and shouldn't be any near-term threat to land. Any light discussion will be fine here in the main thread. Modeling consense is for the TC to move into the central Atlantic into the midrange.

Francine is following the script here. I do not expect any surprises. As has been much discussed, with mid-level flow tilting the vortex and advecting in pockets of dry continental airmass into the circulation, any further strengthening should be held in check. Pressure falls have leveled off and might even be rising some now. I wouldn't be surprised if the core weakens slightly prior to landfall. Obviously, flash flooding and surge are the prominent dangers here. I don't think sustained winds or gusts will be more than what seasoned Louisianans are able to handle. Not downplaying, it's still a hurricane. But this region has seen much worse in previous years.