wxman

Seeing this, maybe I will stir the pot a little. Quite honestly the best (though still not great nor accurate) explanation for the perimeter of this forum is that it covers the Mt. Holly NWS region. OK, first, that's not accurate, this forum covers "PHL metro, South and Central NJ, Northern DE and South Central PA." While this includes the Mt Holly area, the latter area also includes Sussex cty NJ and Carbon cty Pa. That fact eliminates the justification for this forum based on the notion that it covers only the local weather of the people who object to merger. Conversely. Mt. Holly covers Middlesex cty NJ while Upton NWS covers Union (the counties are right next to each other). I've come to the conclusion that the objectors like a smaller group and/or like those who are still in this forum, and not so much the "NYC types." That's OK I suppose but recognize it for what it is; it has little to do with local weather. So to JTA66, ask yourself, does a poster in Cape May cares that people in Lansdale are "seeing flakes"? And, FWIW, I as well as many in the Mt. Holly region saw those same flakes last night.

I get your point of view, but to be clear no one posting here "stirred the pot" as the thread was started by a mod who raised the issue for reasons I think are obvious. I think my final word on this will be this: for those looking for local obs (as you and others say) then one (or a few) ongoing threads for each locale within a larger, more vibrant forum makes more sense to me compared with what looks to me as a pretty slow (being kind here) forum Peace.

H.A. no intention of "insulting" you or anyone. You simply do not respect a differing point of view. There are plenty of people who like things I find disgusting, and vice versa I'm sure. You may pay a premium and love this place to death, but I hardly ever stop by and I'm sure you say that's great, why do I stick my nose in? Well, simple, I want the owners of AMWX to know what I think and what may explain why this forum's participation is so low compared to surrounding areas and if they want to act, great, and if not that's cool too. What I find most surprising is that with viewership here so low, and the comments in this thread so one-sided (nearly everyone says they STRONGLY oppose merger)...almost 38% favor a merger. Not everyone shares your view.

At the risk of repeating myself you can make the same argument for the forum as it exists now. What interest is there for a poster in Cape May to hear a poster from the Poconos...or even North Wales? There was actually a time when forums were combined, that's the issue. There was a lot of fighting by those who only cared how much snow they would get in their backyard. That's not the primary purpose of these boards, IMO. We can have a respectful disagreement about that. I think it's not just a matter of geography that explains the small number of posters, this forum in particular seems to have vocal "IMBY" types, and that's reflected in the opinions against merger that have been expressed, and don't recoil when I say that, you said it: "But I don't see how the weather on Long Island, Newark, or Manhattan is of any interest to those of us posting from Reading, Wilmington, Cape May, Brandywine, etc." You freely admit that you mainly care about the weather in what you consider your specific area (whether or not your defined area is logical -- not quite sure what a poster in Cape May would find so interesting about weather in Reading). I think AMWX is looking to increase participation and if so they might consider seeing how a merger would work, they need not cater to those who prefer to mingle only "with their own" or want a local forecast. Again, I respect the differing opinions, but understand, we are only expressing our personal preferences. It's up to AMWX to decide which opinions align with its objectives. I think both cases have now been made.

All you need to do is click on my name and you can see when I joined. As for how often one posts, well that's a dreadful measure of one's utility to a forum. In my case it amounts to about 56 posts per year, that's actually plenty. As has been said wisely to many and perhaps most around these parts, "read more, post less." But if you think number of posts is a useful metric then compare the 161K posts in this forum with the 1.3mm for NE; 771K for mid-atl; 669K for NYC. There is something very wrong here, but as with any proposed change there will always be a vocal few who love things the way they are. That is you, and it's no shame, but it is what it is. You think this forum is fine the way it is when so many have obviously already left. The mods should not let the vocal few kill this forum. Make the change and see how it goes, IMHO.

Any forum is going to cover an area of 100 miles, as does this forum in its current iteration, which features posters from Cape May to the Poconos. The mid-atlantic forum, the NE forum and (to a bit lesser extent) the NYC forum are active and vibrant. This forum is not (not being critical of those who post here), just the low membership and activity. I'd try something different to see if both forums might benefit from a combination. Hardly a revolutionary idea and easily reversed.

Nah, I'm an old timer who's been on forums since before there was an internet as we know it. Message boards first then eastern wx and then one of the earliest members on American, my current profile was entered in 2010. It's pretty obvious that the few remaining posters in this forum prefer things the way they are, and that's why they are still here. But, no fair-minded weather hobbyist can look at this forum and say it's preferable in any meaningful way to say the New England forum, which covers a larger area then we would cover if this forum covered the stretch from PHL to NYC. I would try and move towards that model rather then saying how great this forum is when it clearly is not at least to the many who have already voted with their feet.

It's not hard at all to click on other sub forums, that's not my point. The New England forum is a good example of how a vibrant forum should be. Let's say a storm is a week out (and let's face it, tracking is much of the fun of this hobby), all of us would benefit from the mets in the PHL forum posting in a string with the mets in the NYC forum and that hopefully would lead to discussions like they have in the NE forum, and real sense of community over time. Clicking on separate forums does not give you that. And, you can't justify separate forums based on distinct weather zones...as you have people from the Poconos posting here along with people from the Jersey shore. My view is that the few remaining posters in the PHL forum like it this way (stands to reason, right) and the rest of us stop by once in a blue moon or not at all. If I was king (and I'm not of course) I would have one forum covering roughly PHL to NYC and within that forum there could be separate threads for the PHL area, NYC area etc. This is how other sub forums are run, and compare the number of posters they have versus here. There is a reason for that. The split was a mistake and now hard to correct because those that would want a merger stopped paying attention. Again, just my opinion.

I think a merger would be a very good thing as you need activity or people just lose interest. I'm almost always on the NYC forum because of the activity. If I lived in South Jersey I probably would not bother with AMWX at all as this forum is just to quiet. It is what it is, no offense. There are a vocal few who want things as they are...and probably a whole bunch who stopped coming to the PHL board a long time ago. To the person who wants a weather forecast for his backyard, this isn't the place and not the point of weather forum IMO. Don't be a hater, just my opinion, nothing more.

Just saying..........

The GFS on the NOAA page looks nothing like this. What am I missing?

3.5" down with sleet/snow mix now. Temp 32.

Hanging on in the sourlands but a few pingers starting.

2.75" down. Temp 32.

I don't agree. The reason Freehold got 10" yesterday was prolific rates of precip. It snowed there but at slower rates would have been sleet like Wilmington or my home well NW of Freehold where I got 3.5". That area of NJ around Freehold and east (Monmouth cty) gets more and heavy precip in a number of winter storm set ups. That's climo too.

3.5" final for round one. temp 26

3.25" down. Mostly snow with few pingers in the lulls. temp 24.

2.5" down. temp. 23. Moderate snow but still mostly fine flakes.

0.5" and 21 degrees. Light to moderate snow but mostly fine flakes.

2.5" here.

What's in the cup, looks might tasty!?

8.8" storm total.

8.5" down. Temp. 31.

7.5" down. Temp. 30.

7.5" down. Temp. 30.