cbmclean

Exactly, that is what we are rooting for in NC: the north vort to go ahead of the Baja. If they come out fast together then the storm is amped. If they come out slowly together, the storm will be amped AND the cold air will be retreating.

Clearly a lot of the guidance wants to pull in the Baja low. I am hoping that modelling is just as wrong as those that were scooting the cold air in Sunday in time for snow. But hope is not a substitute for analysis. I am intrigued by Eric Webb's posts about the SW energy coming out to soon. I hope he is as arrogantly right about that as he was on Sunday.

MA enjoying the CMC, which sucks for NC and South.

Everybody wishcasts to some degree...everybody. One must just try to minimize it.

If you're talking Twitterati (or maybe X-eratti now) Webb seems to leaning towards more SE impacts due to the potential strength of the high. BAM is placing confidence in the more NW AI solutions. BAM seems to be based in Indiana area so I wonder if that "want" that to be the case more. I'm obviously hoping Webb is right this time. We for sure know he is not afraid to say so if he feels the pattern is not conducive for the SE.

As I mentioned yesterday it's frustrating how condescending and arrogant he can be, but he knows his stuff. He's also from Parkton (near Fayetteville, NC) so he had a whole childhood to ponder SE snow fails. That said I think it speaks well of NC weather weenies in general in that many of us, including many of us on this forum, knew that this was very unlikely to pan out and reacted accordingly. This is actually a very interesting case of NWP failure. We rightly disparage the GFS, but in this case I'd say it had the overall idea more correct that the Euro on average. Yeah the GFS bounced around like a drunk person playing Mariocart but the rock-solid Euro was rock solid wrong in the sense that it was showing no snow because it never brought the precip back NW until the very end. And when it did, it showed the same phantom snow that the GFS did. The NAM suite was so lost and will probably insist I got snow six hours after the storm is past. Oddly, the usually snow-happy CMC was probably the miost consistently correct at range in that it long showed a warm NW track. I would love to have a long convo with a NWP expert to try and understand why the models always overestimate the speed of cold fronts in general, and always fail to resolve the Apps specifically.

Congrats GA peeps!

That "little too aggressive with the cold front" is what is likely to ruin it though, at least for the Triangle East. You have a bit more buffer.

That's a Bloody Maria.

Has anything really changed though? We still lack an established cold high. We're still relying on cold air chasing moisture. I guess higher qpf allows more dynamic cooling?

We should probably organize an area-wide search to find the real Chuck and identify who tied him up and is posting under his name.

I missed his early pronouncements; was he bullish?

He can be annoyingly arrogant so it would be fun to see him get egg on his face, but I don't think it will be this time. As he has pointed out (over and over and over) with no established high the cold air is chasing moisture and in the history of NWP that has never worked out.

Just don't look.

Well, to be fair you can see the entire state (and Virginia too) east of the Apps suffers from a qpf shadow. Sometimes the Apps are nice like when they trap cold air. Other times I wish we could press a button and retract them.