mahantango#1

19 for the high today.

I think they should have a WINTER storm Warning due to the complexity of this situation and especially at night. Even though it doesn't fit the criteria. What a screwed up forecast. Just my opinion.

That is something JB was eluding to earlier today.

Just like we'll maintained roads, the ice stops at the Pa. line.

Yes there is a difference, based on prior events Peter's Mountain seems to be huge factor on these type of events. Peter's Mountain seems to divide the county on the weather. You can go from the upper end of the county with 3 in of snow but once past the mountain Harrisburg could have nothing. So it happens with thunderstorms in the summer also but not all the time. I truly believe the mountain has some involvement in the weather dividing Dauphin County.

Or do you mean drinking that whole bottle while your loading that tanker and then driving it.

But the upper end of Dauphin county (where I live) and west of the river they didn't lower them. It doesn't jive with NWS point and click forecast WHTM is double the amounts of NWS.

Maybe DT is a consultant for WHTM.

WHTM 27 has not really wavered on amounts.

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Maybe Dt was on to something with that map.

Something tells me there will be problems even though it rains with temps. that are supposed to go into the mid 30s during the overnight that cold frozen ground will be a factor. Didn't we just experience that last weekend? NWS had to issue a Ice Storm Warning at when the precipitation was falling. I know up in this part of the state we did. I was stuck at 31 for hours when the models said I should have been in the mid 30s. I know this is a different situation then last week but the possibility could exist.

From DT after he issued his first call, I guess his map is invalid now. BIG CHANGES IN NEW SHORT RANGE MODELS REGARDING JAN 16 Full update on the Twitter page But basically what's happened is that the new high resolution models coming in Friday night early Saturday morning or dramatically warmer at the mid levels of the atmosphere. This is producing a lot more sleet and freezing rain even in the Shenandoah Valley Southwest Virginia Virginia as well as the Virginia and North Carolina Piedmont regions and into central Maryland. Fo example in central Virginia the temperature stays below 32ﾟ until 7 o'clock on Sunday evening which is quite a bit later than what the data was showing earlier. The precipitation comes in with a lot of freezing rain and sleet in all of Western North Carolina the Western half of virginia into Western Maryland and even into West Virginia. The snow amounts on these short range models are reduced but the ice and the ice storm threat is dramatically increased . If this trend is confirmed we are looking at much more than ice storm in the interior or Western half of North Carolina virginia of North Carolina virginia Western and central Maryland and West Virginia and a lot less snow. I'm not going to change anything right now but if the trend continues the last call map tomorrow morning will be significantly different.

Let's see what tomorrow mornings model runs look like as we get a little closer to that event.

If this would stay all snow and those forecasted winds materialize There will be a lot of drifting an possible road closures. Key word if.

You think those totals in the central and western part of the state will eventually be expanded east 30 miles?

Whtm-27 has not changed their snow map from last night. S I guess they feel pretty confident.

what you said reminds me of this commercial

Does anyone think this map has any merit?

DT will have his first guess map out @1100pm

Usually they downplay it. I thought they would be cautious especially after just a few years ago when they had a accumulation map out with some that were over a foot. And if I remember correctly we ended up in the 2-3 inch range.

ABC WHTM has a snow map out already.

I don't think he's a bad forecaster. But he can be nasty at times with people, but sometimes I think some people just like to provoke the bear.

So someone else must have watched his video and read his blog.