Oh yeah I've read the board and it does seem very bleak. Maybe my blinders are on but im trying not to hard to complicate this winter. And after last winter with the crazy long cold stretch in January and the record breaking snow along the gulf that no one had predicted nor believed, im hedging on something as variable as that or could be near that. We are in different times using analog years and rolling things into the future in my opinion. We will see what happens but I'm still very positive on this winter around here.