Question at this point does it matter? Not trying to be an ass but we know the models are going to change run by run. Especially when we have a PNA ridge, blocking, 50/50, and the PV looks like it's going to make it's way down into the lower 48. This all plays havoc on the modeling. We've seen things blow up within 2 to 3 days from the event. Just like earlier when several saw snow for the first time in 3 years.