Yeah but I can remember we used to get snows in and around Halloween here several years and it snowed several times around Thanksgiving or the very first of December. This being 70 plus well into December is not an early Winter. Getting one snow then hitting record highs doesn't cut it. On this side of the mountain we hit several record highs by several degrees last December. Our climate has warmed and has become less snowy around here. That is a fact that shows in the data and no im not being a debbie downer but just looking at the statistical numbers. You can clearly see we are warming. Last January was an absolute gift for around here even though we went right back to above normal in February. I'd like to see more consistency but our climate is changing and the norms are not the norms anymore.