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Don't feel it's an exaggeration, but that's a subjective thing. Yes, there is some decent analysis and that is always good to see and learn from. A substantial amount is off topic too and it adds up. Not calling out the mods here at all, they more than enough to do and shouldn't be bothered. Likewise, realize we're not in storm mode (unfortunately), but stand by the opinion much of it is/was banter. Just prefer it to be here where it belongs so we we see there's a lot of unread msgs in the MR/LR it means something...

Sad how the Med/Long Range dialogue has gone down the tubes. Even with nothing on the horizons, many check periodically with hope. When you see a substantial number of unread threads the temptation to muster a glimmer of hope is dashed when you realize the preponderance of posts is more stuff about dandelions, pest control and similar unrelated hoopla that should be here in banter. Sure is disappointing. Would rather there be nothing in the Med/LR than to have to weed through that "stuff" only to realize it should be here. Please folks, if there's nothing to track then let the thread lie and die in peace.

Heck of an end to the NC/Duke game. Wow.

Now THAT'S funny! Why on earth does he give a sh!t where his sh!t falls and how? There MUST be some particular reason why a hippo has developed such a finely tuned capability to spread his sh!t in such a refined manner. Can't say I've seen that before, but how often do we have the chance to observe first-hand how a hippo disperses their sh!t? If only hippos lived on the Galapagos Islands then Darwin probably would have developed a theory...

Yup - agree on all points. Couldn't agree more with the desire for a more middle-ground approach to things. Like Ronnie used to do with both sides of the isle in Congress. I remember mandatory desegregation busing in the 60's, to include some pretty infamous riots, the debate over Elvis and his stint on Ed Sullivan, Woodstock, the draft, pot, abortion, etc. All very emotional for man and many of those topics still are. But it seems worse now than ever. My family and I returned from an extended stint overseas immediately prior to Obama's election and the divisive nature of our culture took us back and seems to have gone downhill further in the last 10 years. I've learned a lot from reading this thread, the length of which underscores how dire our winter weather situation has become. If we just had something/anything to track, would conjure a guess we would have all let this one die a long time ago - me too. Hard to contemplate a good ole Jeb walk when it's nearly 70F outside...

As I said before, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Respect mine and I'll do the same. To say anyone's opinion about a very subjective topic is right or wrong is in it's own right, contrary to having a healthy debate on the same.

Haha - Believe me, I ain't no bible thumper, but don't begrudge those that are. To each their own and I've worked 30+ years providing the security for us American's to exercise the freedoms we tend to take for granted sometime. It's just that the pole dancing and synchronized pelvic stuff was beyond the line of reasonable. It's sad the exploitation thing has degraded to the point it's at. Some of yesterday's game reminded me of why I don't watch the NFL much anymore. Same for the NBA... You'd think every play was the greatest play in the history of sports. The "All about me" syndrome is an insult to Team.

Any game where the outcome is in question with 3 mins to go is a good game. The half-time show was disappointing. With the patriotism theme in the pre-game and on some of the commercials, I had hopes of something more inspirational and family oriented at half-time. Those comments on the Fox thread are not surprising in the least. As a hetro male both performers are no doubt attractive... However, as so-called family entertainment it was a sad example that missed the mark. My wife and I discussed the same with our 22 year old daughter. Sadly, the predominate focus these days is on "what can we do to up the advertising rates?" and sex sells. With the inclusion of pole dancing and the side by side syncronized pelvic thrusting, they were one step away from porn. Considering the group of pre-teens on and/or around the stage during the exhibition in coordinated gyration, it's surprising the FCC didn't interject (they still have a 10 second pause built into the broadcast as a result of the wardrobe "malfunction" of Janet Jackson many years ago). In some circles the combination on display tonight would have garnered a visit by child social services. The NFL F/O must have greased the skids there somewhere. Pretty poor post-game celebration too. So much confetti you couldn't see what was going on. Too many visual distractions all over, but congratulations to the Chiefs.

Sounds like my wife. After 23 years we long passed the point of me trying to explain anything about the variables. Now I just tell her what coat to wear when she goes out. Straight to the basics. Yet, she continues to tolerate my unceasing hope for something that resembles winter, no matter how dire the outlook.

Based on current NWS Radar it looks like Garrett Co MD is getting nailed right now. Radar is confirmed by traffic cams on WeatherBug. Impressive fetch of SN is all the way from the UP in Michigan. Seven Springs, PA picked up 3" overnight. Current cams there look look great with SN or SN+.

Interesting topography plot. Looks like they used a FDM machine (Fluid Deposition Machine used for rapid prototyping). Would be interesting to compare the COand/or CA relief plot to the Swiss Alps. When you go down in the valleys in CO you're still at 5000+ ft in altitude. In the alps, the altitude at the bottom of the valleys is measured in hundreds of feet - the elevation difference is much more stark. Likewise, the amount of vertical is more compared to CO and CA's major resorts. Max vertical in N. America is either Jackson Hole or Whistler Blackcomb, BC at around 4000' (both vie for the most vertical). In Zermatt, Switzerland you can ski 8500' of vertical in one continuous run. Not sure if that's the max vertical in the Alps - Chamonix, France may have more.

ROTFLMAO - Yup, no matter how much shellack you put on a turd, it still stinks to high heaven. Speaking of bacon, if you've never been to Vienna, Austria it's interesting to note they have a particular affinity for bacon. Way back when the Suleiman laid siege to Vienna the Austrians developed a slick way of testing for internal spies. At every planning meeting they had everyone eat some bacon as a test. To this day, Vienna strongly resents what the Ottomans did on multiple occasions (they were especially brutal sieges) and bacon is a relished delicacy with very special meaning.

Noted sarcasm on target. Dunno what happened in the main thread the last few days. The sad outlook for sn hardly justifies filling it it up with what's akin to banter. The banter of repeated postings of percentage maps and other "stuff" such as ski trips as a thin attempt to put lipstick on a pig overshadows the occasional learning opportunity from the posts that are worthwhile. Realize the outlook is bleak, but if there's nothing to report, we gotta preserve at least some minimal standards... When you see there's 30+ unread posts in the medium range and get hope there may be something new worthwhile, it's a real letdown when you read through them only to discover the majority of the posts should be here... Give the mods a break please.

Is that a slight neg tilt developing in the isobars? 540 right through DC

Woke up at 4:00am to a torrent outside. Ended up with 1.62" overnight. Just perfect to turn the yard into a swamp and the east coast ski resorts up through PA into slush piles. If only it were 20 degrees colder. A "mere" 20 degrees....

Now,,,, IF we can get through about 20 runs and all the models show a similar setup, then I'll get excited. Until then, one run of one suite with so many things that CAN go wrong. Sigh...

Been wondering the same thing. Many of the recent events since early Dec that went N of us did so in a way we were 2-300 miles from the action. (which is a world away, I know). Realize from I-81 N and W there's another entire climate at play, especially from mid-PA N in latitude. But in some cases one could see if the setup of the ridges and troughs over the Pac and CONUS was shifted some we could be closer to at least in the game (assuming also the WAR stays out of play). Perhaps wishful thinking here, but the boundary has often been in eastern Ohio diagonally down through western KY and SRN MO. My relatives in SW Ohio have already had multiple 4"+ events, which is a bit rare for them this early.

Fantastic Bob - no doubt you are doing a lot of things the right way beyond being part of the foundation here. That's great. Can only imagine how proud your son is going to be too. Real life learning opportunities like this are too infrequent these days...

Bob, no doubt you were inoculated against having any chance of becoming jipolar a long time ago. Most of us received that immunity at a young age... Sitting at 6.5" here about a mile NW of Vienna. Picking up again....

6-1/4" just NW of Vienna on Lawyers Road. Looks to be some building down around Raleigh. Hope good stuff mentioned by the NWS for this afternoon makes far enough N&W to give us all some more. Wes should be in a prime location for that.

Great second pic of your son. The awe he must feel with what today has in store for him.... I'm nearly 60 years old and still feel the same. Only thing that changes is the way we have fun. Can't wait to get out in my Kubota and do the neighborhood. Typically plow our 450' driveway, 4 more adjacent to us that are longer, about 20 other driveways, a 1/4 mile of street and a mile or so of sidewalk along Lawyers road to Vienna. Hope your little man has a blast today!

If this were to really play out as illustrated on the NAM, suggest it would be a hands down BECS. Can barely read the posts as fast as they are coming in. If the NAM nails this, it will have dethroned king EURO.

24/21 - Nice rise in dp from when I went to bed. Hats off to all those who stayed up so those mere mortal weenie wannabes like me could get some sleep, wake up and quickly read about getting named overnight and new additions to webster's dictionary of meteorology terms "according to Jeb"

A "positive reverse bust" - I think.... hope..... pray... that is a 4 letter word that starts with B and ends in M?

WWA just extended up into lower PA...