For the northern crew, going off the Euro only, things don't look as bad as some might portray. Surface temps are in the low 20's throughout but more importantly 850's are -8. Pretty reasonable to expect 15-18 to 1 ratios. As long as expectations are reasonable we're still very much in the game for 4-6 with the very strong possibility this nudges further north. If we get .3-.4 liquid were good to go. Accumulated snow still gets well into PA even on the south/dry runs. The upside is much better than the downside with this event in my opinion. Plus something like GFS is showing isn't completely out of the question.