ErinInTheSky

We'll be more prepared next time, I truly believe that. Testing will be there enough to contact trace properly.

The biggest barrier to a vaccine is safety. If safety "red tape" gets cut, I'm not taking the vaccine. Vaccines are safe because they go through massive clinical trials. A rushed vaccine can absolutely have negative consequences, and has had negative consequences in the past with other vaccines that didn't go through extensive testing. That + mass production is definitely the barrier to it getting in in under a year.

I don't doubt for a second we'll surpass all of those.

Just to add, what it does NOT mean is that we are even close to "beating this", rather we are heading towards achieving a pause in the explosive growth phase and stabilizing our cases/day.

There's a lot to be hopeful with this chart. Log charts allow you to see if exponential growth is occurring. The exponential phase has decelerated tremendously. That's an absolute result of measures that have been taken in the last few weeks, and expected. However, it doesn't mean that growth isn't occurring. Rather, that growth isn't as fast, percentage wise, as it was earlier in this disease. It's a good thing. If the curve flattens the way it looks above, it's going to take us a while to get to 1,000,000 cases.

Because we all need some good COVID news, it appears the curve is actually flattening on a log chart over the last 6 days nationwide. This bodes well and shows that staying at home works.

Florida's stay at home order excludes churches, and excludes local municipalities doing any tougher restrictions of their own. Florida's gonna make New York's numbers look like rookie numbers.

I think there will be a sizeable portion of people who _want_ to return to business as usual, but I think business as usual will be hard to achieve until we collectively feel safe and we reestablish social norms after being stuck in isolation for so long.

Exactly. Like can you even imagine going in a crowded restaurant right now?

I kind of wonder how we will collectively be psychologically after this. Like, are we going to be collectively traumatized, nervous to go outside and interact with others? You see it in Wuhan, which has opened up but people are staying inside.

New York City no longer accepting patients that are pulseless at the scene. https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/961091?section=us&keywords=newyork-nyc-emt-virus&year=2020&month=04&date=02&id=961091&oref=www.reddit.com

Today is looking bad. Morning update states are mostly in. 22k cases - 700 deaths already. We're heading for a 30k+ cases, 1.2-1.3k death day. Still growing exponentially. Louisiana looks terrible. Maryland has actually be pretty good compared to most states.

Given that there are a lot of fake/false news on the tests out there right now, I'm trying to focus on verifiable sites. It's pretty clear that the WHO test (not the chinese one) worked in several countries, and by not adopting mass early testing and instead opting for a bunk test that, face it, allowed an American company to profit instead of a european one, we failed miserably. A Harvard team is working on this issue right now, showing how many deaths would have been prevented by mass early testing. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490534-harvard-expert-we-clearly-would-have-had-a-very-different-situation When all is said and done, the United States failures will lead to us having the most deaths and cases per capita out of any developed nation. Mark my words. We're already well on our way.

I mean I know 6 months sounds like a long time but we're kind of heading that direction regardless. By the way, the 40% false negative/positive thing was NOT the WHO test, it was one shitty test that China was using. See here: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/biden-trump-wrong-about-who-coronavirus-tests/ “The test has been validated in three external laboratories, adapted by WHO and manufactured in line with international quality standards,” a WHO spokesperson said. “It has shown consistently good performance in laboratory and clinical use, and neither a significant number of false-positive nor false-negative results have been reported.” The White House and the vice president’s office did not respond to our requests for comment or clarification. But Birx told the New York Times that the test she alluded to with a 47 to 50% false positive rate was not the WHO test, but rather a diagnostic used in China."

China gets a good bit of blame, for sure, but China didn't make us keep our beaches open with spring breakers a week and a half ago, didn't tell us to pretend masks don't work, didn't keep our stockpile of supplies dwindled, didn't wait until there were 1,000 cases to close schools for us, etc. China didn't make us reject the international tests for our own bunk failed POS gold plated test. They get the blame for starting it, but we only have ourselves to blame for it getting as bad as it is right now.

I have nurse friends on the front lines right now, don’t you dare imply that the sacrifices they are making right now are fake.

You keep getting hung up on this. No other cause of death in this country causes such chaos in our hospital systems. This disease doesn’t just kill but results in extremely long hospitalizations and infects medical staff like nothing else. It all compounds. As has been said, reality in the ground right now is our hospital systems are strained and heading to break.

Yup. It's a raw numbers game at this point.

And sadly, we are more like Honduras than Tokyo when it comes to pandemic preparation.

Actually, if you want to make a good weather analogy, this is basically the difference between a category 3 hitting Tokyo, and a category 3 hitting Honduras. Same punch is packed, but one place is better prepared than the other.

It's a good article, but its applicability is limited. Basically, in a perfectly functioning health care system with adequate medical treatment and no shortages, the CFR is 1.38 and IFR is 0.66. But as we've learned all over the world, the only places to have kept a perfectly functioning health care system is China, South Korea, Japan, Singapore. Because they did not let their health care systems become overwhelmed.

Looking like it's going to be the worst day of the pandemic yet. Waiting on final numbers but we could be at 25k cases - 750 deaths. Which would still be exponential growth. :-/ We're gonna be cooped up for a long time.

You're amazing and if your store was near me, I would go to it exclusively.

If anyone needs some good news on COVID, 5th day in a row with deceleration in cases. Flattening the curve is working. (source is Worldometers)

This should finally shut down all daycares across the state. Some were STILL open.