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gfs might have to be the designated driver of the big 3 models. Has us bottoming out around zero next tues-wed while the euro has us -18 and the ggem, (completely sh*t faced) has us -28 which would blow away the all time record low. I would imagine we would have to have a deep snow pack and clear skies for that to even come remotely close. I'll also add that if we get numbers anywhere close to that the good news is the rubberband probably breaks and winter, (for the most part), is essentially over. Think of December 1989 for example. This has that feel except a month later. Relentless cold that started at the beginning of the month, climaxed the third week and disappeared for the rest of the winter. A man can hope at least.

but they don't really say cold either (at least after the next week and a half). Most interesting one to me is the PNA showing it might actually go negative for the first time since beginning of December. Clearly that's been a huge driver of what we've been experiencing.

I get to the end of all these model runs....360hrs out...expecting to see the beginning of the collapse of the cold, (especially looking at where the indices are headed), and yet the cold just keeps reloading in Canada.

God I hope not that long. This is the most depressing weather. Endless days of near/below freezing with no exciting systems to be found. A 4-5" battered snow cover and everything looks dirty and covered in salt dust. First winter where I'm not going any place warm either. Kill me

btw, the bolded DID end up happening too. Do I know ILN or do I know ILN!

In about 10 days we should see a +nao +ao -pna and the mjo ready to tour the warm phases. #torch-tracking #forch #2012

congrats to the cincy and ohio river valley folks! Was really hoping this would have been an i-70 special, but not in the cards. Amazing how the north trend only happens for us when it comes with a warm tongue and a changeover. I picked up about 2.5" just northeast of CMH.

that's crazy, I live about 8 miles on a straightline E, NE from there and picked up around 2.5". Hate to say it, but the fcking euro did a good job. GFS scked yet again. Lightest, most powdery snow I've seen in a long time too. This morning I was actually glad we didn't get a crap load....my blower is dead probably from it sitting in my garage for 3 years collecting cobwebs.

Snowing moderate roads covered

Flurries finally

Most of the short term models this morning didn’t have snow coming in until about 7 to 8. That looks like it’ll be about right. I’m actually more concerned with the shield looking kind of ragged andbroken up to our west.

It’s a game of inches here, literally. I think it’s equal chances that we could get 2 inches or 8 inches. I’ll be watching radar and seeing how many hours of virga we’re gonna get. A common theme that the hrrr and nam have is what looks like the leading edge of snow moving in around 3pm that becomes a head fake and dries out before it gets here and then finally punches thru between 7 and 8. its hard to believe we have 9 more hours to go with this low thick cloud deck combined with the radar, but we’ll see. lets face it, this is how we do snow storms here….always on the edge, either north or south.

12z hrrr do we believe?

Since the current storm has gone from model watching to radar watching, we turn to the next threat in under a week. to my novice eyes this looks like it’s a few tweaks from being something special for our sub. As it stands now it’s favoring a later phase and becomes a New England bomb.

hrrr 18z

actually about the same after looking at snowfall map

the nam is refusing to budge, in fact it appears it might have nudged north and keeps the low alive longer into s. WV

Ha! I nailed it actually I’ve been reading iln discussions for so many years It becomes easy to guess what they’re gonna do. Even nailed the 3 to 6 inches. Maybe I should quit my day job Now let’s see if I’m right and they end up switching Franklin county over to a winter storm warning once the snow starts. That’s another thing they seem to do quite a bit of, Most of our winter storm warnings aren’t a result of a watch going to a warning they are usually advisories going to warnings.

on a lighter note, both the euro and gfs have snow moving back in by 156hr. It's kind of an unusual set up with a low to our north and a positively tilted trough... ...what could possible go wrong

euro is remarkably unchanged. At this point it's time for the short term models. I'd really like to see the rgem juice up. The track isn't horrible but it's drying up the snow big time as the low transfers before it gets into WV. Really need that primary to hang on a little longer....same old same old issues lol

I’m guessing, ILN will put those northern tear of watches over to advisories and leave the warning counties as warnings. Unless we see something dramatic with the euro which is very unlikely at this point. Probably something like 3 to 6 across Columbus 2 to 4 once you get into Delaware County. Admittedly, i feel like that’s conservative, but my guess on what they go with. I’ll throw out my guess later. But recently, how many times have we seen advisories get upgraded back to warnings once the storm evolves hopefully that’ll be what happens this time.

there have been a handful of storms here in Central Ohio over the last several decades that were forecasted to give us 6+ inches of snow 24 hours out and busted. Every one of those busts was a result of a last minute push north with the precip and the warm nose shutting off the precip, or changing it to sleet or rain. Not a single bust was a result of the snow shield not making it far enough north or being shunted south. I'm not saying that can't happen, but when I've seen it happen in other places, it's a result of a very strong arctic high just to the north pressing harder than models were forecasting. Granted, I'd much rather see a more neutral to neg tilted trough if I'm hoping for a surprise northern push, but I still think an unexpected northern push of precip has a better chance than a southern miss if those are the only two choices.

Kids definitely make it fun. I can’t wait to take my 2yr old granddaughter in the snow. She’s so curious and excited about everything…she’ll be fun to watch. Although at this point she might be 15 by the time she sees her first big snow if her mom and dad stay in Columbus.

And yet us cmh’ers are tying our nooses… that’s how much faith we have in the American models.

About the same…if you stare at it long enough you might be able to convince yourself it ticked stronger and north