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Boeing is 1% of the national economy. It also is our largest exporter. Finally it is the 2nd largest defense contractor behind Lockheed. I don’t disagree with you about Main Street needing help, but large companies have so much pull since they employ thousands. I’ll say large corporations aren’t the enemy really. Reason being, they pay well typically. You really notice it in college at the career fairs, your people like GM, Ford, Boeing are so coveted because they absolutely pay. I make a good living now but I’d easily make probably $20K a year more if I worked at Boeing or the DoD.

Could get dicey around 4-6 PM with storms. Instability isn't the greatest but if the SRH can get a little better, might get a couple spinners before this thing lines up

Well this response is what fascinates me on this thread. I'm not arguing and I guess "lockdown" was the wrong word, but your restrictions were extreme compared to what I went through. Leave your home? Pick up food? Pick up orders? It's hard to relate to a world like that honestly. Living in South Carolina, that sounds like a lockdown. What I'm saying is that is far more restrictive than anything I have seen in this region. Restaurants have been open with no capacity restrictions except in some localities since May, all retail stores have been wide open with no real capacity restrictions, sports are happening with people, beaches have been open and the only thing bars cannot do is serve past 11 PM. I'm not saying I fully agree with what the Southern states have done either, it's just hard to wrap my head around those sorts of restrictions considering we never really came close to that except in April. It's stunning talking to friends & family back home of how exhausted they seem with these rules, yet here in the South you don't really have that. People are just going about their day and wearing masks.

Uhh what do you call the Spring sir? Let’s be honest retail stores, dining and many other things were closed in the North for months. We have had all amenities open in the South since Mother’s Day with barely any restrictions other than a mask. I mean heck the Big 10 hasn’t even started yet, while all Southern schools are playing games with fans and NASCAR has been running with fans for months

Interesting to see the numbers spike in the Midwest while Southern states are at their lowest numbers since May. It's clear the strict lockdowns that Northern states imposed has led to serious fatigue within the populace. On phone calls with friends, family and co-workers there just seems to be a level of exhaustion at how things have gone up there with this. Meanwhile I'd say things are better than they have been in a while for the Carolinas. Tourism has simmered down and people are doing a good job of wearing masks in public.

What is it with Iowa and big early season snows? Didn't Chicago have a snowy Halloween last year as part of that storm that stretched from Iowa?

Posting this so you guys hate me. 67° and perfect for a hike today in the Carolinas. It’s unreal how nice the Spring & Fall are in this region. Should’ve made the switch years ago haha

Let’s be honest, the thing that has made this so bad is that we were not prepared. No one really was. Bill Gates talked about this a few years ago in that TED talk, he was terrified at how our world governments were completely unprepared for a pandemic. That’s how things normally are though. In the 1930’s and 1940’s no one was prepared for the rise of the Axis Powers and it almost led to world domination by Japan and Germany. It took a monumental national effort for us to get a legit army by 1944, 3 years after Pearl Harbor. Only then did the tide turn. For those of us that remember the world before 9/11, it’s staggering to look back at how carefree security was in general. Then 3,000 people are murdered and then all airports/mass gatherings have since turned into high security events. It’ll be the same way with this. No way are we ever going to be unprepared for a pandemic again. And I suspect massive improvements in overall societal health following this. But it’s going to take some time

Well yeah everyone is going to school. Combine that with college spread and overall fatigue, Covid is going to take off.

@Hoosier might be time to shut this down. This has turned into a meme war followed by sanctimonious replies from meteorologists. Time to end this thread.

I remember reading about it in the Toledo Blade. People were doing the same exact things, traveling way out of town just to go to saloons and what not. https://www.toledoblade.com/news/medical/2018/12/08/the-spanish-flu-epidemic-that-shut-down-toledo-1918/stories/20181206003

Nah I have to disagree with your rebuttal. You can be more productive from home, but with kids and the wife working there as well, that goes out the window. I've always worked from home periodically, especially after days of travel, but this is unlike anything I've ever done with everyone removed and distanced. Also co-worker cohesion seems to be going down, I've noticed some HEATED arguments lately that would have never happened if we were all still together. Being in your own space all the time makes it easier to be combative.

Not at all. Lol people don’t have a lot of patience and perseverance. It’s clear at this point fatigue has set in

Distractions! Haha I’m going to lose my mind with all these Zoom meetings and calls that have to wait because people are home schooling their kids and what not. I so miss people being in an office so I could just give them a ring or walk into their office. The pace of work seems to have slowed down

We’re having problems with training and onboarding due to this pandemic. We’ve got a few people in positions hired similar to mine that are basically doing intern-type work because we cannot relocate them or train them properly at this time. I swear when all this dies down the amount of business travel I’ll have to do will be enormous. [mention]Stebo [/mention] I think it’s okay to work from home, it’s not okay to make it illegal for a supply chain analyst or accountant to go into work.

Well said sir! It's the biggest issue I have with this, Governors can do as little or as much as they want. If Ohio's Governor comes out tomorrow and says that everyone must wear an Ohio State ballcap with a face shield attached to the bill before entering indoor places, what check is there to stop this? As I said previously my company has two main offices in Chicago & Ann Arbor. Because of the WFH restrictions Michigan's governor has imposed, we're having a difficult time hiring people because it's so difficult to align people into the office.

Ready for some drier air in Charleston. 80's and humid is no fun this time of year

Absolutely! The only problem currently is the mugginess, recently has became humid once more due to Hurricane Delta

I remember last year it was incredibly cold in November around the Great Lakes. Was in Chicago during the time it got down to 6 degrees in mid November, absolutely froze walking around. How is the foliage up there? It's very odd being October 12th and still going swimming in the pool daily but that's life in Charleston

That has to be terrifying to fly through hail. I can only imagine what the noise onboard was like. I remember on my way to West Lafayette driving through something like this. Had 60-70 mph winds and downbursts so intense it brought hail & what seemed like snow to the surface at 50 degree temps.

Haha I’d be shocked if any SEC school tested before students returned. Like I said, I fully expected SEC stadiums to look like that. No one has cared about this pandemic since June when the numbers got really high. In SC we had a few days about 2,000 new cases because spread is so bad on campuses

It just seems so foreign is all. Heck turn on ABC and ESPN right now, games are packed and mask wearing is almost zero. Also Florida’s head coach is asking for full capacity crowds as A&M’s large crowd affected them today. Haha we may get 88K in Gainesville

Don’t really understand this reaction or comment. Government here is so limited they don’t even have an official state ban on indoor smoking. Only thing this state cares about is liquor, casinos and abortion

Bingo. People are tired of being told how to live their lives and that’s why the pushback is so extreme. It’s obvious watching football today, SEC games are packed with fans. Had to be 40K+ at A&M. Thats why I laugh at so much of the reaction on here, the government operates totally different down here compared to how it was in Ohio for me.

The massive upticks can all be related to numerous spread at state universities. It's absolute bologna that these state governments sit here and complain about numbers/threaten more restrictions, and yet sanction the housing of thousands of young adults in close proximity in order to earn tuition money.