LongBeachSurfFreak

3 minutes ago, NycStormChaser said:

 

This has been exactly my fear all day. The rest of my snow removal crew jumped ship because they think this is going to be nothing.

Wow look at those super cells in Kentucky. This things juiced 

33 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

almost impossible for ZR to accrete on the streets of NYC unless it's been bitter cold for days--ground is still generally warm this time of year as well.

It’s sleet I’m worried about, sleet accumulates more efficiently then any other form of frozen precip. If we get a couple hours of sleet in the northern city this could end up an impactful event!

35 minutes ago, Sanman 06 said:

It’s not sand. DSNY uses salt. And yes we are out there spreading it , And spreading a lot. without anything coming down. Upper management knows best I guess. Lol 

It’s non stop with even a hint of wintery precip. I guess they aren’t concerned about killing already stressed street trees. I’m going to start taking salt accumulation obs here on the uws.

Looks like one hell of a soaker on the way overnight. That’s an impressive moisture feed 

1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said:

I hate to bring it up but didn't we have one year in the 90s where we had great blocking but mostly rain events due to pack? Is this year similar. Remember benchmark tracks and rain.

That was 97/98. Some pretty strong nor’easters that winter that we’re all rain. The key that winter was a super nino. I’m a really big fan of pattern recognition and I fully expect some winter cancel calls as we head past the new year. Mid January through mid February has always been my thoughts for the sweet spot. Hard to go against peak snow climo for a multitude of reasons.

3 hours ago, Snow88 said:

You can't base a relationship off of weather lol

I know, I was just messing with you. As long as your fiancé understands your obsession. I would at least move to the colder suburbs. You get so much more for your money too!

22 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Plenty of cops and firemen that work in the city living in Orange County, I'm related to several of them.

You're average yearly snowfall will go from 28 inches per year to 56 inches (higher than Bostons and colder too) , and every winter you'll have sub zero readings at least several mornings, and you can still keep your current job. Lower housing costs too. You should consider it.

He’s not going to budge. Why he would decide to marry a girl that hates cold and snow is beyond me. I just got out of a 15 year relationship with a cold and snow hater and now am with a lover. We have plans of moving to New England eventually and it’s a beautiful thing!

53 minutes ago, EasternLI said:

I've been intrigued by this winter for some time now. I still am.

Agreed, the fact that December isn’t +5 is a great sign for later on. I’ll admit I I thought a very warm December was a lock. 

2 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We had a really sharp shift in the mean December NAO state after 2010. While there were occasional -AO drops, it has been very difficult to sustain a -NAO pattern in December. Every year after December 2011 featured a +NAO. So our last high impact benchmark blizzard track was on Boxing Day 2010. We have had plenty of success with benchmark snowstorms in JFM. With the exception of last year.

I think we are seeing some better signs then last year. Is a blockbuster winter incoming? Probably not. It’s almost a lock that December is above normal post 2011.  

.5” on the uws with 3” on the season

Just now, SRRTA22 said:

Two snow events in December! 

Here's a question for you guys....would you rather have snow with no accumulation on pavement or cold rain at 33 degrees? Hm.

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Really? Any snow in the winter is great! Rain and 33 is the worst!

Moderate snow in lynbrook (heavy by amx standards) all surfaces covered 

Main thread for tomorrow is becoming unreadable. Too many posters that need to sit back and read more and post less. 

27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Hi, do you also have snowfall data from the early and mid 1800s?

1826-1864 from Jamiaca N.Y...1865-1868- Central Park...
years.................ave..........lowest........highest
1826-1835.......37.95"........28.78"........55.67"
1836-1845.......36.67"........32.13"........44.57"
1846-1855.......39.50"........30.08"........46.40"
1856-1865.......41.30"........31.08"........59.68"
1866-1869.......48.57"........38.26"........57.40" 4yr ave...

Incredibly consistent climate pre 1870 as expected. No monster years and no epic fails that we are now accustomed. 

8 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

um the trend--models are cutting back slowly but surely.   Light to moderate rates won't do it especially after 2 days of rain and temps in the 50's.    Could be another win for the Euro which has never been impressed with this system.

Agreed, never been a fan of this one. In midtown it will be what snow? Expecting a slushy coating on paved surfaces on the uws, maybe an inch or two on the grass. The grounds going to be radiating heat!

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

The weather sure isn't boring.  I'm looking forward to the event on Wednesday.

 

Yeah it wasn’t about boring, just the rainy damp weather. I’ll take cold and dry to snow to cold and dry. We should see at least one extended period like that after the holidays 

1 hour ago, JustinRP37 said:

It looks more wet than white. Who cares if it snows 1-3 inches then races to 50 and rain? This is the point I have made several times from an ecological perspective. Days with snow cover matters more than inches of snow in a year. 
 

Edit: hoping I am wrong but still not having much faith and having a bad day haha. I hate this type of weather more than anything (cold rain). 

Same here, this weather is the worst as I cannot get anything accomplished. One thing is for sure, no real winter periods are coming. We should see that flip in January to sustained cold and snow. This is not 11/12

14 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

Not true anymore. Euro isnt what it was back in the day. 

So your saying the euros skill is less then it used to be? I highly doubt that. 
Too many things need to go right for this to be more then some wet non accumulating snow (in the city) I’ll take a slushy coating as I like all snow but keep expectations low 

Great conditions today at Stratton with that mid winter vibe. The 20” earlier in the week and 4” yesterday have the place cruising. Even with the hit this week there will still be plenty of snow left 

Flurries from some wayward lake streamers, always cool to see 

17 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

1.5" here, all from Monday night.  It snowed during the day also but not much and shut down quickly once when it was about starting to glaze over things.  Only 0.15" LE after 9AM Monday, so ratios Monday evening were probably at least 12:1.  Total LE for the entire event was only 0.49" going back to Sunday morning, so if it was a couple of weeks later and a little colder this still would have been a fairly minor event here.

Yeah, I guess the same in wantagh. In the city we lost a ton during the day to melting so that would have been a solid event. The front end would have went to rain on the coast regardless of time of year 

30 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

I saw pics from Long Beach in the early morning and it looked like an inch or so. There were good radar echos in southern Nassau Mon night so I would think some people there had 2-3”. 

Yeah I would say it was over two at my parents place. They are right near the bay. Rare south shore jackpot 

Flurries on the uws. Looks like a little ocean effect snow right now on the east end with the return flow

Finally got home to see what I got, first at my old house in wantagh there appeared to be a decent amount more snow then both the city and my new place in Lynbrook. Further analyzing the snow there was very little base crusty layer in wantagh which means as I suspected it all fell with the overnight batch with cooler temps. I could see it having been over 2” before melting and compaction yesterday