LongBeachSurfFreak

Townsend VT? I’ll be at my house in west Townsend VT later until Monday. Sleet was the big issue with round one. Hopefully round 2 produces.

Minus being overweight, pretty much me… Historically it was never a 100% chance you were going to get a ton of overtime ever winter, but even the 80s had several events requiring snow removal each winter.

A strong nino actually isn’t what you want. 82/83 and 15/16 lucked out with one big storm. 97/98 is more typical of what to expect with a strong nino. What you want is a weak to moderate nino.

97/98 made it to March with .5”. There will still be blockbuster winters in the future, but also allot of these everything goes wrong years as well. We were always on the border of a true snow and winter region New England and the paltry mid Atlantic. Unfortunately we are moving into their zone, where duds are just part of the deal.

A good snowy winter could mean doubling my annual salary in overtime. That’s a serious hit. Luckily for me I have other projects I work on to supplement when it isn’t going to snow. I have friends who do snow removal privately and the only way to make that work anymore is to sign contracts ahead of time. That, then comes with the risk we have a blockbuster winter. Which in my opinion will still happen moving forward. Feast or famine is the new snow reality in our area.

The guys a legend for a reason. I have allot of respect for the fork!

What a disaster of a winter. I’m not saying I’m going to starve because it hasn’t snowed but for those of us that have financial ties to snow this hurts. Snow removal = overtime for thousands of workers and business for many small businesses. You really can’t rely on it like you could in the past.

Main thread is pretty funny right now. Liberty has a conversation with himself, with occasional gloating from snowman (it’s his winter can’t deny it) and the occasional Metsfan looking for hope. I will say at least no ones beating each other up, NE forum is fully of the rails.

Something is seriously shady with the amount of salters I saw dumping tons of salt on the way into work on the uws. I run snow removal for a college and would never dump salt 1. during rain 2. with a solid forecast of above freezing temps. Since salt is damaging to vehicles and the environment something is up. Possibly a good old boys overtime scheme in a low snow winter we’re guys need the money and budgets need to be spent. And or a need to lower stockpiles so that salt contracts can continue in the future. Either way, this is inexcusable. This event is even close to being justified….

I have a theory about warm starts and cool endings to our current climate winters. It has to do with low Arctic sea ice and the resultant albedo effect of open water in our cold air source. It’s still cold enough for most of the Arctic to eventually freeze however. Thus our cold air source is available late season. This is a very simplistic view as it would take pages and pages to prove this. The Arctic is still very sparsely sampled so it’s also hard to prove. But to me the proof is in what we have been experiencing. That’s why I think a shutout is harder to do for us during the second half of the season and we will likely see this many times in the near future.

There was a coating with December event, so even if we do see a coating in the park again late at night and it melts away before morning don’t expect it to be recorded

Exactly, 40-70 means nothing when there isn’t a cold air source. Even at peak climo Along the coast we are at the whims of the ascendent airmass. That’s meteo 101. If you can shave 5-10f off your normals at peak climo (used to be all of us) you can get by. But unfortunately the highest point on the coastal plain doesn’t exceed 1,000’ until Cadillac mountain in maine

Exactly from 7 to 70. Early bulbs like daffodils and crocuses will be popping up by the end of the week

Ahhhhh that’s what I have been hearing on the uws. My campus is only a block from the Hudson.

Pouring on the uws. We like likely beat qpf. Not a shocker…

Exactly. We need a full scale PV disruption to shake things up if we want to see a snow pattern. It’s not impossible but we could just stay like this the rest of the winter for a 11/12 type scenario.

Don’t worry… the same thing happened in January 15 in the NE thread. Look how that worked out

Care to elaborate for those of us on mobile?

Exactly. I was at Stratton all last week until yesterday. It went from a several foot base to completely melted out. Only snow making trails remain and they are in bad shape too. That’s a Mountain far enough north and with a base of 2,000’ and a summit of 3,850’. What’s a place like Vernon valley with a base of 600’ and a summit of 1400’ going to do!!!

Leaving Vt today snow retention was surprisingly good in the valleys. But above 2,000’ it’s toast. CAD for the win. The big issue for the mountains is having to start over with snow making. Even snow making trails were struggling. It’s going to take more then a few inches at the end of the week to get the ball rolling again.

We need all the luck we can get at this point….

Look at the temps, marginal at best. No cold air around. We would need a dynamic system to get it done in the metro

All good fellow lynbrooker! Happy new year! 23 is going be an amazing weather year! Micheal Jordan says so!

Are you responding to every single post! I think this is a record even for you.

Still holding on to full coverage with the colder air holding on in the valley. Up high it’s a full on snow eating wind melt down.