LongBeachSurfFreak

I wouldn’t use absolute air temps and obviously the Park. If you add dews and use the real feel temp, it’s been plenty hot. 106 at 55 like in 1936 was more bearable then 98 and 75. I love records too, but they aren’t always accurate as to the human experience.

Back to my original example, Allison. Obviously a naked swirl at 30 North 50 East that produces a few sheared thunderstorms and an area of 35 knot winds for 12 hours isn’t worthy of a name. That same storm pre satellite wouldn’t have been noticed.

Glad I at least put in the cool weather veggies. This week looks like optimal growing conditions. Still holding off on the hot weather loving plants, like Tomatoes and annuals.

You’re totally missing the point, this isn’t about IMBY. It’s about tropical storms having the potential to cause huge monitory damages. Even name retirement. We can talk about nor Easter vs. tropical system damage potential all day in the NYC forum. They are completely different animals and pose very different damage risks.

A TD couldn’t produce the size and intensity of flooding that Allison produced. You need the lift produced by the dynamics of a deeper low pressure. Regardless, the point I’m trying to make is that some of the most damaging storms monetarily were tropical storms. Thats especially true in the North East. Dianne, Agnes, Floyd and Irene were all tropical storms in the NE all produced catastrophic damage.

Ask Texas about Tropical storm Allison.

Exactly, that was a testament to the record sea surface temps. Had we had water temps similar to the 80s you would be looking at 5-10 named.

I absolutely DO NOT want this in July it would be 100+ here right now. Some of us have to work outside…

Just got back from the beach where as expected it was chilly right on the ocean. The thermal gradient was so tight that it was 10 degrees or so warmer up on the boardwalk.

Nice, I almost went the finance route but found Econ more science like. Either way, I’m a horticulturalist now! Heading down to the beach, temp just shot up here in lynbrook.

Exactly. That’s why I think you need to combine the computing power of quantum computers with AI to get there. Just too many possibilities. As for math, yeah meteorology is a math degree. I’ll pass on desecrate math and theoratical equations. I just barely handled the math to get an economics degree.

Still requires a human element. AI isn’t even close to there yet. I’d say closer to 2050 then 2030. The real wild card is quantum computing. Currenlty waiting for the sun and heading to the beach for nice run.

Regardless of why he was closer to the actual number, absolutely no one on earth called that mid season shutoff. My concern is we see a return of those conditions this year. If it hadn’t been for the record water temps extending the season last year, it would have been rather unremarkable.

Our climate then was closer to present day Boston. Now more like Baltimore back then.

The wind really picked up in the last 2 hours. Must be an Ambrose jet type event.