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I suspect it is rooted in the magic of childhood snow days; a day off from school, unexpectedly, and a day with friends sledding and having snowball fights. In the past kids in the neighborhood all did this together, differences were put aside, and there were no cellphones and only a handful of tv stations. There was the thrill of hiding behind a snow bank and tossing snowballs at passing cars, before there were cameras everywhere to record the deed. You never knew what would happen til the next morning. You didn't get calls the night before or an email or a posting on a school website canceling the next day because the Euro said you were going to get 2 feet, when you wound up with 3 inches....no, you had to wait til the next morning, and it if it wasn't cranking, you were going to school. Bummer. It was before life became complicated, with mid-terms, exams, dating, teen angst, the drudgery of becoming a wage slave, and having to drive to work in the snow to satisfy the boss man ( or lady ) who expected fealty for giving you the privilege of a job....think "Rosebud." Anyone who has watched through curtains at night, longing for the snow to fall, could understand the meaning of that last gasp...."Rosebud"......indeed.

Ok, this is rather unusual....

We have a few of them around here.....

Light rain here.

It was sickening and abnormal. And yes, we are going to see it again, because the planet is burning up. I had tomato seedlings popping up that December. A tropical plant. Quite disturbing.

Ugh. Backyard is a swamp as it is.

It's never really a surprise to see snow in Jan, even in an unfavorable season. Saw it in '12.

Don't even remember it....where was it ? ( I t certainly wasn't IMBY )

Yeah my BIL is in SE ME, always complaining about the snow, like clockwork. Yet he hates NJ and was glad to move. Interesting headline today online about NJ being the state most people leave, and the "harsh winters" was cited as one possible reason ( along with the obvious others, like taxes )....so even without snow, most people think it is too cold here.

Inland areas is not most of us Ant, we expect inland to do better than us in these conditions. The question is will anything happen for the vast majority of us here, and from all I have been reading for days here, it is highly unlikely. If it snows in Binghamton it doesn't really mean much for us. That said, I'd love for something to happen, we all would. Keep us posted.

More mud and rain for us is my guess....

If we are looking at 2012, we are already conceding the winter is shot IMHO.Feb 2013 was a tad better...

I hope not.Nothing is more unsettling than 70 temps in Jan, even Feb. In March i can accept it. Would love to see more of it in April and May.....Some are seeing a turnaround after the warmth. We'll see.

Sheesh and now to the 15th....losing some of the prime winter days to warmth. And that map looks really warm.

Don't forget the Outer Limits, which many people think is on par with Twilight, but I never got into it.

If you hate winter, as a lot of my cohort does, there is not, nor has there been, any kind of warmth to get excited over. These folks want sunny and 80 all year round. " At least it isn't snow" is all I hear in winters like this.

And they are complaining about it loudly already. My BIL was livid his stepson took his snow broom ( whatever that is ) to work with him and he couldn't clean the snow off the deck today.

I used to watch that show as a kid, it was sort of a Twilight Zone ripoff with the events supposedly based on real events.

2018 and 2015 were not good Januaries for many of us.

Again, going with the theme that most people hate snow, my late father once complained to me after a Jan storm sometime in the 70's that, oh no, it will be on the ground till spring now....it used to be cold enough for a snow pack to last awhile at that time of year. Now we get 27 inchers that melt in a few days....

Very well...I remember being at the Philly zoo and people were wearing shorts....

And yet this very morning I had friends complaining about the freakin cold, as it was 38 degrees....this is an alternative universe compared to the rest of the world, which hates cold and hates snow even more. I don't know if it was 38 but I can say that I have been tossing the ball to the dog outside for a few days without a jacket on....

Probably because a cold snowy Dec ( which this is not ) is usually a good indicator or more goods ahead, but not always, and it would be foolhardy to bet against some kind of snow before winter ends. But, we do get those winters with paltry amounts, and they usually look wet and mild. 2002 was dry IIRC.

The last 10 winters, yes, but the last 3 no. It could be a long term trend or not. I guess my point was, perhaps not clear, is that the winters of my youth did not often have blockbuster winters that got 40-60 inches, granted it is not that long a period that I recall well, maybe a dozen years. But we did not have the kind of frequent storms we saw in 2011 or 2014, that I can recall. Also, this was a long time ago. I'm not young. I'm talking the 70's. We had some snow, but the only big one I recall was Feb 78. And that was 17 inches. And no one I knew had ever remembered anything like that. I was 14. It would be 1983 before we saw that again, and 1993 before we ( barely ) broke 10 inches. So it is not unusual to have mellow winters here, but they were colder on average. No tomato seedlings popping up in Dec like 2015.

So I went to Rutgers and they had the totals for my town as this: 2015-16, 33 inches ( 27 in one storm ),2016-17: 22 inches, 2018, 35 inches, 2019, 15 inches. If you go back further, sure. we had some big winters, but even then got a tad less than some nearby areas. Not sure why.