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weatherpruf replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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January 2021 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to Stormlover74's topic in New York City Metro
Kinda the same thing every winter lately...guess we have to depend on these kinds of events to sometimes deliver, because the 'favorable" patterns just seem out of reach every year.... -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
On NY weather archives the guy mentions it, and two more storms that winter that I can say confidently did not effect me in this area. Weather service archive for Mt Holly ( my area ) mentions nothing about this date. It must have been some very tight gradient because I don't remember any snowfall at all of significance that whole winter, indeed the Star Ledger ran a cover story on what ever happened to winter that year.... -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
That was a very mild winter, my first year teaching in Elizabeth; are you sure we aren't talking about a different year; there was a storm near Thanksgiving in 88 or 89; can't believe I wouldn't remember something in 1990. -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
It actually was true 30 years ago. we had a long stretch of next to nothing. -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
I surely would have remembered that so it must have been well east of us;; there was no significant snow in these parts until march 92. -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
it's really been about the same give or take a few inches, for a long time; the 70's and 80's were not that snowy, but the decades before were. I've always thought the median was a better measure, or even the mode. Averages don't give a clear picture, because some years are off the charts in either direction. -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
Snow has always been a source of uplift for peoples' moods during winter. The most depressing thing in winter are short, overcast rainy days that come back to back. That is in fact how winters are in many places where snow isn't common; England, Ireland a lot of the US....snow lifts people's moods because it brightens things up. Using the snow blower and having the dog leap into the air chasing the snow was the most fun I've had in a long time. It's back to overcast and damp today ( though it did snow a bit earlier ). -
I haven't been 140 pounds since 1979.....
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December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
I actually read something to that effect about Toronto as well, that they were behind Chicago or something in that regard. So again, it's not really a snow mecca. A little more on average than NYC ( 17 inches more ) due more to its being colder with smaller events that are typically rain or mix messes here. Montreal is in its own class for a big city. -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
weatherpruf replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
I was watching a tv show recently filmed in Toronto, Orphan Black, and seeing the scenes of snow piles in the suburbs i decided to look up their average. It isn't as snowy as some might think; they average around 47 inches ( wrong side of the lake for lake effect ) and then looked up Detroit ( 33 inches ) and Chicago ( 35 inches ) and Boston ( 48 ). So really NYC at 28-30 is fairly snowy. But once you go south it starts dropping a lot. Boston is about on par with Toronto. Montreal however, averages around 83 inches, Quebec City 150...at that point its too cold a place for me; was there in July and stayed in a ski resort that functioned as a hotel in the summer; there was no AC. They told me don't worry open a window at night you'll be fine. They were correct. -
December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
weatherpruf replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
In 2006 IIRC Rahway reported 26 while 5 minutes away I had about 18. It does happen, but could be an area of drift was measured.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
weatherpruf replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
A lot of NJ was in the 3-6 zone though, some areas that had looked to do better. The forecast was off; I don't remember seeing predictions of Binghamton getting 41 inches. But, you were not all that wrong either. Here we didn't get as much; 6-9 in the area, but I don't obsess over totals. It was a nice event, got the snowblowers working, and had some fun for the first time since March and the shutdown.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
weatherpruf replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I dont bother to measure. Perth Amboy recorded 9 and RU in Metuchen measured 8.2 so that looks about right. The sun really eats it up during the day light and we had full sun very early.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
weatherpruf replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I've seen people on TV in the city and it was still snowing like an hour ago; over here in Middlesex county NJ the sun came out around 9 am and the skies cleared. reports were of 6-9 inches area wide in these parts.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
weatherpruf replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
One thing about NJ that I always remind folks of; we do not have, generally speaking, a whole lot of extreme weather. Big blizzards are not really common, serious hurricanes are even less common, ( no volcanoes, no earthquakes, either )no prolonged extreme heat and no prolonged arctic winters. We could do with less rain in the spring IMO.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
weatherpruf replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Wasn't wet and heavy here Unc. Just across from Port Mobil on the Arthur Kill. Where are you, near the Great Kills to South Beach stretch? That really is by the bay; south shore of the bay i saw Cliffwood Beach in NJ had less than 2 inches; it's 30 mins south of here. Snow wasn't Colorado powdery but light enough to blast through with an electric snow blower. Even some of the large foot + drifts.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Actually was more than I thought and I had some 2 foot drifts to blast through this morning near the front gate and car over here in Colonia. I was really surprised how much fell after it flipped back last night. Even had the minivan stuck for a bit. Best snow blower I tried this morning? The little electric toro, blasted through 12 in drifts like nothing.- 1,011 replies
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Spot on. I just went out and cleaned ( damn these gas snow blowers even when new give you issues ) and it looks to be 6-8 by me. I'm not measuring; it was actually a decent event here in my part of Middlesex County. That amount in December makes it an actual snowstorm and not 2-4 inch with slush. Snow wasn't powdery but not wet either; compacted a little from sleet, but it was real nice to blow through. This is CNJ just outside NYC and storms over a foot, or even 10, are not the norm over my lifetime; this is. I'll take a bunch of these all winter rather than a big 2 footer that melts in a week ( ok I'll take that too ).
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At least where I am it didn't sleet as much as it snowed beforehand; I don't think the sleet caused us to lose all that much, iff it had stayed snow...not sure but it still doesn't look like it would have been huge totals here. Maybe 8-10 if it stayed snow? The heaviest precip here didn't last once the sleet rolled in.
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The models continue to be missing something. As I said elsewhere, predictive science is taking a beating across the board. There were some depictions that were close to correct, but far too many that overdid it. It's enough that I'm tending to discount the big numbers absent other important factors ( can't say what that would be ) and just shaving those numbers to skew lower. There were things models picked up on ,like dry slotting, that people assumed would fill in when, in my experience, dry slots tend to persist when they set up. There were models pointing to a lot of sleet ( and actually the snow held on ok for most, giving us 3-6 before flipping and even then flipping back enough to keep it from totally ruining the show ). I noted that if sleet intruded early it would probably make it further than people think; in this i was correct, not because I know that much, I've just seen it time and again. Lets be happy we got what we got, because it could have been worse. I at least have a few 1 foot drifts! By the way, from cartops, it looks like I did see almost another inch of snow after the sleet flipped again. So maybe 6-7 inches, I'll leave it to others to do the actual measurement, as the differences between 4-5 and 3-6 are too small to worry about.
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The are a day late and a dollar short. We had people here saying this and getting slammed. When I hear warm air aloft and coastal winds, it ain't gonna be a big snow for most of us. But it was still ok. Looks real nice. Just a normal type of event for around here. If its the first of a few, that's fine. If it's the only shot of the winter, well we're getting used to that too. If anything, I thought the sleet held off a bit to give us a decent 3-6 event for a lot of us, and there were a number of people here who said 2-4/3-6. Will go to bed and test the new snow blowers tomorrow. Think the little electric toro can do the whole job, but gotta try out the big one.
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Its been sleeting in a lot of places for hours; but it sometimes flips back to snow. Just did here. No dry slot affect yet over here.
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