weatherpruf

It truly is and I hate looking at things so far ahead because anything can happen, and mostly they don't come out to anything like the final outcome.

Well it will have to be a lot further west for some of us....hoping for 4-8 and will be happy with it.

It got so cold one winter in the early 80's my gas line in my car froze. But that wasn't the big story; it was the 18 inches dropped in Feb 83....

That storm dumped 10 inches west of the city, so that would be a huge win. It also buried the coast.

Well, TBH, talking about a cold and dry pattern that no one likes is hard to get excited about; warm weather lovers and snow lovers both hate cold and dry. My hands and legs are chapped enough. But I get your point, and it is valid.

There's a reason the upper midwest is losing population to the sun belt......

When's the next one up?

I know you are, but I'm just trying to add some perspective, so maybe people here might not feel so down about it. Actually we have weather enthusiasts here who don't like cold and snow either; they pop up from time to time to cheer the warmth. Obviously I'm not one of those types. In my case, I'm no fan of severe weather, and I know people here follow it. I'd be happy to never see another hurricane or severe thunder storm. Tornados? Wish they didn't exist. In any case, I always appreciate your posts; always well informed and reasonable.

That is all a matter of perspective; many, many people believe 30 inches on average annually is a lot of snow and more than they want to deal with. In fact, these boards aside, I know of no one who roots for snow, and they'd be happy if it never snowed here again. The deck is stacked against those who wish for lots of snow; this isn't the area for that, which makes those rare storms all the more interesting. A couple feet of snow in the Rockies isn't all that unusual; frequent snow in Syracuse or Rochester is par for the course. But a big snow in NYC or Philly ( not so much Boston, which gets more, or Chicago, which has more events, though mostly smaller ) or DC, or any city where that isn't a normal occurrence, is big news. I don't know if people in St. Paul get excited over 3-6 inches, but I'm guessing not.

And even then there's room for error.

Because we want to believe it's still possible, even if it is unlikely. I'm beginning to think these models are mostly useless more than a couple days in advance; they can tell you to keep an eye out, that's all. We never should put much stock in them too far out, but people do.

I'm watching the number of browsers diminish by the second....that tells me a lot.

Seen that too. Has to be just right.

What is there to keep this system from going further east?

So Boston doesn't need it as much....further north and east. Which is why it is generally snowier there. And my BIL in ME, forget it. Snows at the drop of a hat. Even there it hasn't been very snowy this year though.

Late to the party as always. What gets me is we can all see that it's been a crap setup all winter but we still want to believe we can thread the needle somehow, because ya know, it's always possible. I'm still hoping to get something outta this, 4-8 would still be a win in my book. But the way some here talk, it looks like nothing at all is on the table for lots of us. Can't say that yet.

Didn't that storm have blocking though? I mean it wasn't moving that fast IIRC....

Starting to think it is more fun watching the fantasy solutions than the actual storms, which can be a pain in the neck. Never played fantasy sports, maybe we should have a fantasy storm club....

I think you are onto something and without blocking it just doesn't cut it. Let's see if we can wind up with anything significant, though I'm starting to doubt even that....

4 inches this year is a major storm for us.....

I don't care if it's the best model in the world, if it is alone it can't be relied on. I'm reading here the trends are all east. By this juncture it is unlikely there are massive swings west. So let's see if we can get anything at all out of this or if this has been another massive waste of our time. Speaking for north central NJ and west here, heck even the city.

Well it keeps going east. So that should tell us something. Not expecting a big storm here over in NJ at this juncture ( at least not in my area ) the question is do we get flurries-3 or get at least a 6-7 of powder out of this? Anything more would be gravy at this point. Again, doesn't seem to be the year for big snows in this neck of the woods. With my limited knowledge, I have a bias against winters with little blocking, though I do understand it isn't always needed.

It is all of that.

They break, as do snowblowers. Things are made like junk today. I bought two snow shovels last year and they have already started falling apart; A new craftsman needed a new carbuerator when it was brand new. Used twice last year, it now needs another new carbuerator. Thankfully I have a better machine and an electric toro for backup.

Any mention of accumulating snow in my parts results in increased supermarket sales. At 12+ it is panic.