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Yeah but in general the rest of May has been lousy, and I've had to restart seedlings several years now because once anything in the nightshade family gets exposed to a cold shot, they don't really recover. We used to say plant after Mother's Day, last year I was starting new seedlings in June, because the Fall is warmer than in the past and adult plants can take a little cool weather. So I've been planting a little later. That said, we need some rain. Raised beds are dry, in ground garden spot is as dry as clay. We call NJ the garden state, but really aside from a few Cole family and lettuce crops, most of what we grow needs hot weather.

Some speculation that the losses of white cedar in S Jersey are due to over saturation from precip heavy storms. Some speculation as well that local fisheries like the winter flounder have been affected somewhat by warmer waters ( though overfishing played a role as well; for reasons that are unclear some environmental groups are reluctant to point fingers at commercial fisheries, which are a big contributor to plastic waste in the oceans, as much as 50% )and there are regular reports of southern fish species showing up in our local waters, like the poisonous southern puffer, cobia, and Spanish mackerel.

Light cold rain here. Was heavier earlier but no snow at all; no one was expecting anything more than a few white rain showers here. But still nasty out and will mean a good day to stay indoors; just ask my dog....waiting for a contractor as the wind the other night blew my big blue spruce down. Planted it in 95 when it was but a shrub, it must have been some 25-30 foot tall. Heartbreaking. My dead oak is still standing; minus some heavy branches. Gotta get that one taken down as well. Gonna cost me. Ugh.

I pretty much ignore predictions like this. He doesn't know what will happen anymore than anyone else, and I don't think analogs are particularly useful in the current climate. Just my unprofessional opinion. I wouldn't bet against snow, but I think we are pretty much done for this year; winters like this usually don't result in a snowy March.

The story for us in that storm was the sleet and rain on top of the 10 inches of snow, which then froze solid. It wasn't a historic snow at all for us, but that amount of thick ice is something I've not seen before or since, and it could not be easily cleaned, resulting in multiple school closures for days.

Really don't want my kid driving his dodge avenger into the Bronx tomorrow morning.....hoping the class will be canceled but no one is paying attention to this event it seems. We went from an inch over by 10 am to several inches and possibly later in the day. I mean c'mon....it's not a big storm but enough to cause issues.

Do these maps ever really pan out? And won't they be different later on tonight?

We had the -EPO and we don't have that now. I don't think this will amount to much. But who knows. Note; I don't actually know what the EPO is but I've read enough about it here to know it's what caused the snowy winters of those years despite lack of -NAO ( IIRC....)

I've no confidence in this event, but in a way since my son has to drive to the Bronx Zoo tomorrow for a class I kinda hope it peters out. Which means we probably get 4 inches no one prepared for in the roads dept....

it was remarkably close and had my area right on the 6-8 line most of the time, we wound up with a narrow swath of 7-8, just across the Kill in SI they had 9. We almost never overperform here. With snow disappearing so fast these days, I wonder why bother to clean it that well? And I didn't. I do the driveway and walks to make em usable, but don't fuss over it. Most times, it's all gone in a week.

Plain rain in Woodbridge and am hoping it stays that way until the precip moves out.

That does not look like something to ignore even in the immediate metro, though not sure if the impact is as long based on what I have read; sounds like some glazing toward the end of the event? Really thought it was something we didn't have to be worried about down here. Your thoughts?

Depends. If you're driving and there's even a slight glaze, that's a problem. Hoping that won't be the case. People do drive in the city. It's a mess on a good day.

This seems like a bad outcome to me. Hopefully it won't verify. Even a little ice is bad news. One other thing about some of the ice events over the years, the temps warmed up as the day wore on; seems here dropping temps are the problem, no? That would be bad.

I lose power in most major events, and I live near SI on the NJ side....I haven't lost power in ice, but in all of the big hurricanes/tropical storms and in the October 2011 snowstorm. This has to do with downed trees mostly. So the ice has to be pretty bad to bring down trees, and I don't think that's happened in awhile. Curiously, the block in back of me usually doesn't lose power. Haven't lost power in winter, though that Oct storm was winter temps, but not enough to freeze pipes. It's such a threat I have installed water pressure backup pumps for sump pumps, since we typically do not lose water ( though one town did from some reason during Sandy, according to the contractor who installed it ).

LOL I used to work at the Essex County Youth House. I'd call NYC schools for the records of some kid and they'd be like, where are you calling from? I'd say Essex County, ummm, Newark? Ok, they'd heard of Newark....

Once again though we are trying to predict what will happen several days out, and we won't know the outcome till what, Friday? So I'm watching this one because my son has a class at the Bronx Zoo Saturday and commutes from CNJ. They probably don't cancel if there isn't a strong consensus, and that could be a mistake.

Hopefully. Who needs ice and power outages in mid-winter? No one. Since this area is generally predictable with weather types, I expect a cold rain with maybe some period of ice but nothing too bad for our region, but it's too soon to say.

Mitch, i think we actually had two in 94, the first was more a snow with ice on top, the second was a legit rare ice event ( the first may have been Dec 93 IIRC but I am in NJ and maybe it didn't affect the city, but that ice storm def did ).

A glazing is possible in the immediate suburbs at times and even this is hazardous; if it warms up then it's only a brief problem. But it can cause a lot of serious problems in the meantime.

A combination of all three is possible and I believe it happened in one of the ice storms of 94, where actually it even snowed briefly before changing to sleet then rain then freezing rain.

Well we have managed a hair above normal for this time of year in bad conditions in Newark area, and while the storm was only about 4-8 inches in areas west of the city ( my BIL in ME called that a dusting but even they only got about a foot; they weren't in the epicenter either ) it was enough to push us to about where we should be for now, so there's no denying it's possible to see some more events. They may not be big, but honestly a normal snow is enough for most.

Ant would a south shift bring us more ice, rain or sleet....this doesn't seem likely to involve any snow right?

Seems like most of the metro got something out of it. Would've liked around a foot, got close to 8. I'll take a bunch of 6-8 all winter if I could get them.....2014 comes to mind.

All over now but the sound of snowblowers in the neighborhood; I still have to clean some of the cars and the additional 1.5 that fell after initial cleaning. That's on the wife and son. He's 24. As for my daughter at 19, fuggedabouit. She does have 2 herniated discs from a fall which she is using as an excuse to avoid, well, everything, including dishes......