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Major flooding in Monmouth County also.
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I have been under training convection several times in the past when the totals went past 5.00. The most extreme version was in August 2011 when I had 10.00 to 11.00 and most of the rain fell in less than 7 hours. Back in June 1995 I picked up 5.15 in around 90 minutes.
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Portions of Orange County show what can happen with training convection in situations like these. Orange County... Otisville 7.78 in 1010 AM 07/06 NYSM Montgomery 6.01 in 1005 AM 07/06 CWOP
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
These Euro monthly SST forecasts show how a large portion of the ENSO regions are currently on track to set new all-time actual SSTs and anomalies. -
As I have been commenting on for a while now, these expansive marine heatwaves and associated 500mb patterns can exert an influence on our weather and climate which is independent of ENSO. So at times the other marine heatwaves and associated 500mb patterns can drive the sensible weather. Then at other intervals the ENSO can have a more direct effect. Still on other occasions there is an overlapping influence. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adz4647 Marine heatwaves in the Northwestern Pacific (NWP) have become increasingly frequent and persistent, yet the mechanisms enabling their multiseasonal duration remain poorly understood. Through observational analyses and climate model experiments, we demonstrate that NWP marine heatwaves are primarily driven by a quasistationary wavenumber 5 circumglobal wave (CGW) pattern that operates independently of El Niño–Southern Oscillation. The CGW modulates surface heat fluxes during summer, triggering a self-reinforcing feedback loop where NWP warming intensifies the CGW pattern, amplifying and prolonging heatwaves across extended warm seasons. Additionally, CGW-driven summer warming in the northern North Atlantic persists into winter through oceanic thermal inertia, exciting a great-circle wave pattern that propagates back to the NWP, sustaining heatwaves through cold seasons. This interplay between atmospheric waves and trans-basin interactions enables multiyear marine heatwave events. Analysis of observational data and climate model simulations reveals a strengthening CGW influence in recent decades, indicating more frequent and prolonged NWP marine heatwaves under ongoing global warming.
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
You have to realize that the actual pattern isn’t always what you want it to be. -
This was the warmest July 1st through 4th across the region. Several locations came close to their all-time highs. Atlantic City tied their all-time high. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ Warmest July 1st-4th Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2026-07-04 89.4 0 2 2002-07-04 86.6 0 3 1966-07-04 86.0 0 4 2018-07-04 85.3 0 5 1901-07-04 84.6 0 - 1872-07-04 84.6 0 Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2026-07-04 84.5 0 2 1966-07-04 82.1 0 3 2002-07-04 81.6 0 4 2018-07-04 81.3 0 - 1964-07-04 81.3 0 5 1955-07-04 80.4 0 Time Series Summary for Poughkeepsie Area, NY (ThreadEx) Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2026-07-04 86.1 0 2 2018-07-04 81.9 0 3 2002-07-04 81.4 0 4 1955-07-04 78.9 0 5 2013-07-04 78.1 0 Time Series Summary for Philadelphia Area, PA (ThreadEx) Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2026-07-04 89.4 0 2 1901-07-04 89.0 0 3 1898-07-04 85.6 0 4 2018-07-04 85.3 0 5 2002-07-04 84.8 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2026-07-04 88.6 0 2 1966-07-04 87.8 0 3 2002-07-04 86.4 0 4 2018-07-04 85.8 0 5 1955-07-04 83.9 0 Maximum 1-Day Mean Max Temperature for Poughkeepsie Area, NY (ThreadEx) Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Last value also occurred in one or more previous years. Period of record: 1931-01-01 to 2026-07-05 1 104.0 1933-08-01 2 103.0 2026-07-02 - 103.0 2001-08-09 - 103.0 1995-07-16 - 103.0 1966-07-03 - 103.0 1936-07-10 3 102.0 2011-07-22 - 102.0 2010-07-06 - 102.0 1991-07-20 - 102.0 1991-07-19 Maximum 1-Day Mean Max Temperature for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ thermometer malfunction missed the 2010 max Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 108.0 2011-07-22 2 105.0 2026-07-02 - 105.0 2001-08-09 - 105.0 1993-07-10 - 105.0 1993-07-08 - 105.0 1966-07-03 - 105.0 1953-09-02 - 105.0 1949-07-04 - 105.0 1918-08-07 3 104.0 2012-07-18 - 104.0 1995-07-15 - 104.0 1993-07-09 - 104.0 1936-07-09 Maximum 1-Day Mean Max Temperature for HARRISON, NJ Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 107.0 2011-07-22 2 106.0 2026-07-03 - 106.0 2010-07-06 3 104.0 2001-08-09 4 103.0 2026-07-04 - 103.0 2025-06-25 - 103.0 2025-06-24 - 103.0 2012-07-18 Maximum 1-Day Mean Max Temperature for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 107.0 1966-07-03 2 104.0 2026-07-02 - 104.0 2011-07-22 - 104.0 2001-08-09 3 103.0 2010-07-06 - 103.0 1995-07-15 - 103.0 1948-08-26 Maximum 1-Day Mean Max Temperature for Atlantic City Area, NJ (ThreadEx) Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 106.0 2026-07-04 - 106.0 1969-06-28 2 105.0 2026-07-03 - 105.0 2011-07-23 - 105.0 2011-07-22 3 104.0 1966-07-03 4 103.0 2026-07-02 - 103.0 2001-08-09
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Then maybe you can help me understand what you mean by the term surrogate since it’s not typically a word that is used when trying to understand the weather and climate. -
2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
I usually don’t post seasonal forecast maps for details like temperatures. Looking more at where the seasonal models have some actual skill like the ENSO plumes past the spring predictability barrier. The temperature maps posted were to show that the models haven’t had much skill in that area. Just remember than none of the seasonal models over the last decade have successfully forecast any the record warmth which has been so frequent at times most winter seasons since the 2015-2016 super El Niño. I don’t understand what you mean by surrogates since that implies a situation or process where you can exert some influence on the outcome. Now if I could affect the weather in some way, it would be to restore our colder climate of days past since I didn’t like how much warmer our climate has become. -
2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
In a broad sense you can consider these seasonal models guidance, but the guidance is more of a correlation at times than an actual forecast. I showed in earlier posts how the 2023-2024 seasonal forecasts matched the correlations for Nino 3.4 and not the subset of super events over +2.0. About the only thing that the seasonal models have skill at in July are the Nino forecast plumes now that we are past the spring predictability barrier. -
2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
You have to remember that biases with these models are often situational on where the strongest ridges set up. The locations of the strongest ridges will vary based on La Niña, El Niño and the intensity of the event. This past winter none of the models forecast the record warmth out West where the ridge got stuck in place. The magnitude of the models missing the cold in the east was significantly smaller than the warmth in the west. About the only time in the last few years that the seasonal models were significantly too warm across the entire CONUS was back in January 2025. It was close to the 30th coldest January for the CONUS which was the coldest single month of the 2020s so far. But that miss was eclipsed by December 2024 being the 4th warmest on record. -
Yeah, people have to remember that models can give us signals but the exact amounts and locations are going to vary. Especially when they are modeling convection where mesoscale boundaries and processes are at play. It’s better to think in ranges of possibilities so if you live in a flood prone area you can at least prepare. I can remember growing up when the models wouldn’t even give us any signal at times and some of the events came as a complete surprise.
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Just remember that with our last super El Niño which was much weaker than this one, the seasonal forecasts including the ECWMF were significantly too cool for what verified from the long range forecasts. Forecast from August 2023 Verification -
The location of the heaviest potential with HFEF max around the region usually shifts from run to run. But the signal is there mesoscale banding producing localized 5”+ amounts. Sometimes the mean chart is closer the actual amounts and other times the max does better. We never really know for sure. So it’s good to post the mean and max together to show the range of possibilities. The WPC and NWS use that as one of the models for their QPF forecasts. We can see a few spots so far are over 3”. But the nature of convection usually means that the models can’t really pinpoint the exact locations. The latest runs have shifted east a bit which is par for the course with convective rainfall forecasts. Excessive Rainfall Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 423 AM EDT Mon Jul 6 2026 Day 1 Valid 12Z Mon Jul 06 2026 - 12Z Tue Jul 07 2026 ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF COASTAL NEW JERSEY TO SOUTHEAST Massachusetts... ...Mid-Atlantic and Northeast... Waves of low pressure ripple along a latitudinally wavering stationary front causing multiple rounds of training thunderstorms. During this period the front will likely be sprawled from central Ohio to central New Jersey. Two distinct shortwaves moving along this front will help track dual waves of low pressure eastward, each of which will locally enhance ascent (one across western Pennsylvania, the second from New Jersey into southern New England). Broad areas of ascent, instability with PW values exceeding 2" will be aligned near this front to yield a significant risk for heavy rainfall capable of producing flash flooding. The latest guidance mainly focuses the heaviest QPF over southern New England and portions of northern/coastal New jersey. Although the placement widely varies among the hires guidance there continues to be consensus for areal averages of 3 to 6 inches with local maximums of 8+ as reflected by the REFS and HREF PMM. The neighborhood probabilities reach above 40% for coastal New England and Long Island for 3"/24 hr and 15% for 5"/24 hr. Rainfall rates at times reaching 2-3"/hr combined with aligned mean wind/Corfidi vectors which are parallel to the boundary will drive training/backbuilding to support these heavy rainfall amounts. A Moderate Risk cover far northeast New Jersey, Southeast New York and Long Island, southern Connecticut, southern Rhode Island and portions of southeast Massachusetts.
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The Euro update from a few minutes ago now has the strongest traditional ONI on record near +3.8 to +3.9. June set new all-time SST records for developing El Niños in all Nino regions except 1+2. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/ersst5.nino.mth.91-20.ascii All-Time June SST records in bold YR MON NINO1+2 ANOM NINO3 ANOM NINO4 ANOM NINO3.4 ANOM 2026 6 25.94 2.82 28.33 1.71 30.19 1.22 29.17 1.44 2023 6 25.63 2.50 27.88 1.26 29.55 0.58 28.57 0.84 2015 6 25.32 2.19 28.07 1.45 29.88 0.92 28.90 1.18 1997 6 26.12 3.00 28.13 1.51 29.23 0.26 28.82 1.09
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
The Euro ensemble spread narrowed at a little higher mean on the new July run to what looks like an around +3.8 to +3.9 on traditional ONI ensemble mean peak. July run June run -
This is just like the old times when we get a deluge following record heat. The current heavy rain flash flood potential looks like it could be the most significant event here since the last ones in August 2024 and July 2023. Widespread 2-4” and localized pockets over 5”+ where the best training set up. This is also the most juiced that we have seen the SPC HREF since then. This will be the first chance NYC and some other spots see a wetter than average month since way back in May 2025. The heat over the next 10 days will shift to the West with the potential for over a 600 dm ridge. In the past when we have had 103°+ major heatwaves and heavy rains, the maximum temperatures remained the highest of the summer. So hopefully this will turn out to be the highest temperatures which reached 105°-106°of the entire summer. While this doesn’t rule out more 95° to around 100° heat, the patterns in the past haven’t been able to follow up with as much heat in the following extreme heat to very wet.
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Things worked out really well here. They set off all the fireworks just before the heavy thunderstorms arrived. Picked up my heaviest downpour of the summer so far with 0.56 in a short time and wind gusts to 45mph. A great show plus some much needed rainfall.
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More severe wind gust potential with the storms later as the nadocast did very well yesterday. data.nadocast.com/viewer.html Forecast for yesterday with the verification Forecast for later today into tonight
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
June set new all-time SST records for developing El Niños in all Nino regions except 1+2. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/ersst5.nino.mth.91-20.ascii All-Time June SST records in bold YR MON NINO1+2 ANOM NINO3 ANOM NINO4 ANOM NINO3.4 ANOM 2026 6 25.94 2.82 28.33 1.71 30.19 1.22 29.17 1.44 2023 6 25.63 2.50 27.88 1.26 29.55 0.58 28.57 0.84 2015 6 25.32 2.19 28.07 1.45 29.88 0.92 28.90 1.18 1997 6 26.12 3.00 28.13 1.51 29.23 0.26 28.82 1.09 -
This is actually the heaviest rainfall signal that we have seen from the models in quite some time.
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Great video of the severe storms moving in yesterday from a boat in New York Harbor.
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This time stations like Newark and Harrison had to reach 105°-106° for NYC to finally reach 100°. LGA also made it to 104°. This suggests that NYC would have probably been at least 104° if the ASOS hadn’t become overgrown by the trees since the 1990s. This matches the past times our area experienced 103°+ heat before the tree growth near the castle became an issue. Monthly Data for July 2026 for Upton NY NWS CWA Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NJ HARRISON COOP 106 NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 105 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 104 NY PORT AUTH DOWNTN MANHATTAN WALL ST HEL ICAO 103 NJ CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 102 NY FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 102 NY JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 102 NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 101 NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 101 NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 101 NY CENTERPORT COOP 101 NY BAITING HOLLOW COOP 101 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 100
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
We have been experiencing record heat here in the East at times going back to March related to the record breaking subtropical tropical ridges from 30N to 45N. Most times very strong to super El Niños feature more troughs and low pressure at these latitudes during this time of year. The ridges are usually further north on the continent in Canada. This has lead to the mid-latitude Atlantic SSTs joining the very warm mid-latitude Pacific SSTs. This is probably related to the ongoing expansion of the subtropical ridges over the years. Plus we have very extensive drought in the CONUS at this time. Also when forcing shifts back to the IO and MC we tend to see the peak warmth and ridging in the East. The reason the -PDO and +AMO pattern has been so persistent in recent years is due to these strong ridges leading to lighter winds and more sunshine warming the ocean surface below.
