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Possible Record Breaking Cold + Snow Sunday 1/25 - Tuesday 1/27
bluewave replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Good signal from the 6z Euro for at least a 6-8” floor around NYC and LI before any sleet potential later Sunday using conservative 10-1 ratios which could be on the low side. -
Possible Record Breaking Cold + Snow Sunday 1/25 - Tuesday 1/27
bluewave replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
They don’t have the precipitation type and rate for the ECMWF-AIFS like they do for the other models on Pivitol. -
Possible Record Breaking Cold + Snow Sunday 1/25 - Tuesday 1/27
bluewave replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Yeah, they don’t have p-types for that model. So we just have to estimate the p-types from the thickness values and compare to the Euro which has p-types. My guess is that we are going to get a very heavy front end thump on Sunday with at least 6-8” potential before any mixing. This has been the case with past SWFEs. We just have to watch the Southeast ridge next few days in the forecasts to refine the amounts. -
It’s interesting how our coldest low temperatures during the 2010s and 2020s were during our warmest winters. The early February 2023 cold was in a sea of warm. Same story with the only below 0° in NYC since 1994 during the 2015-2016 winter. It’s funny that the back to back cold winters of 2013-2014 and 2014-2015 couldn’t produce a below 0° reading in NYC. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Dec through Feb lowest temperatures Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 2025-2026 16 38 2024-2025 10 0 2023-2024 17 0 2022-2023 3 0 2021-2022 10 0 2020-2021 14 0 2019-2020 14 0 2018-2019 2 0 2017-2018 5 0 2016-2017 14 0 2015-2016 -1 0 2014-2015 2 0 2013-2014 4 0 Monthly Data for February 2023 for Upton NY NWS CWA Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NY CARMEL 4N COOP -10 CT OXFORD WATERBURY WBAN -9 CT DANBURY COOP -7 CT GROTON COOP -6 CT MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP WBAN -6 CT DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP WBAN -5 CT NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT COOP -5 CT GUILFORD COOP -5 NY SHRUB OAK COOP -4 CT IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN -4 NY MATTITUCK COOP -4 CT GROTON NEW LONDON AP WBAN -4 NY PORT JERVIS COOP -4 NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP -3 NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN -3 CT NEW HAVEN TWEED AP WBAN -3 NY WEST POINT COOP -2 NY ORIENT POINT STATE PARK COOP -2 NY RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP -1 NY WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP WBAN 0 NY BAITING HOLLOW COOP 0 NY UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 0 NY MONTAUK AIRPORT WBAN 0 NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 1 NY SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 1 NY SYOSSET COOP 2 NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 2 NY CENTERPORT COOP 3 NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 3 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 3 Monthly Data for February 2016 for Upton NY NWS CWA Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NY CARMEL 4N COOP -13 CT MIDDLETOWN 4 W COOP -12 CT SAUGATUCK RESERVOIR COOP -10 CT DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP WBAN -10 CT DANBURY COOP -10 CT ANSONIA 1 NW COOP -9 CT MOUNT CARMEL COOP -9 NY WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP WBAN -9 NY PORT JERVIS COOP -9 NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP -8 NY SHRUB OAK COOP -8 CT MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP WBAN -8 CT GROTON NEW LONDON AP WBAN -8 CT GROTON COOP -8 NY YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 1W COOP -8 NY WEST POINT COOP -7 CT NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT COOP -7 CT TRUMBULL COOP -7 CT NEW HAVEN TWEED AP WBAN -6 CT IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN -6 NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN -5 NY MATTITUCK COOP -5 NY UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP -5 CT STAMFORD 5 N COOP -5 NY BAITING HOLLOW COOP -4 NY SETAUKET STRONG COOP -3 NY RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP -3 NY MOUNT SINAI COOP -3 CT PUTNAM LAKE COOP -3 NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN -3 NY SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN -2 NJ CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN -2 NY MONTAUK AIRPORT WBAN -2 NY CENTERPORT COOP -2 NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP -1 NY WEST NYACK COOP -1 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN -1 NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN -1 NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 0 NJ CRANFORD COOP 0 NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 0 NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 0 NJ HARRISON COOP 0
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Possible Record Breaking Cold + Snow Sunday 1/25 - Tuesday 1/27
bluewave replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
It looks like that model is counting mixed precip as snow as the 540 line is north of us during Sunday afternoon like the regular Euro. -
Possible Record Breaking Cold + Snow Sunday 1/25 - Tuesday 1/27
bluewave replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Looks like most of us should see at least 6” before any mixing potential Sunday with the stronger Southeast ridge and weaker 50/50 low than originally forecast. New run Old run -
This December was a more amplified version of 1958 and 1980. Both years featured very strong ridges in the -WPO Bering Sea and Western U.S. regions. But this December was more +EPO -PNA.
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The -20° to -33° lows were fairly widespread across your region during the historic January 1994 Arctic outbreak. Monthly Data for January 1994 for Sussex County, NJ Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. SUSSEX 1 NW COOP -29 NEWTON COOP -26 SUSSEX 8 NNW COOP -20 HIGH POINT PARK COOP -18 Monthly Data for January 1994 for Pike County, PA Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. HAWLEY 1 E COOP -31 Monthly Data for January 1994 for Wayne County, PA Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. PLEASANT MOUNT 1 W COOP -22 Monthly Data for January 1994 for Orange County, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. WALDEN 1 ESE COOP -27 MIDDLETOWN 2 NW COOP -23 Monthly Data for January 1994 for Sullivan County, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. LIBERTY 1 NE COOP -20 Monthly Data for January 1994 for Ulster County, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. SLIDE MOUNTAIN COOP -21 Monthly Data for January 1994 for Dutchess County, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. RHINEBECK 4SE COOP -33 MILLBROOK COOP -29 STORMVILLE COOP -22 POUGHKEEPSIE COOP -20
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Possible Record Breaking Cold + Snow Sunday 1/25 - Tuesday 1/27
bluewave replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
What usually happens with these is more than 90% of the precipitation falls as snow before we go to drizzle or dry slot. -
Where you there for the -29° in January 1994? Time Series Summary for SUSSEX 1 NW, NJ - Dec through Feb Lowest Temperatures Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1993-1994 -29 36 2 1960-1961 -25 0 3 1911-1912 -24 3 4 1966-1967 -23 0 5 1980-1981 -22 0 - 1967-1968 -22 2 7 1983-1984 -21 1 8 1947-1948 -20 0 - 1942-1943 -20 0
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Lowest December extent on record just below 2016. https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/analyses/ringing-new-year-warm-arctic Arctic sea ice extent for December averaged 11.42 million square kilometers (4.41 million square miles), the lowest extent in the satellite record for the month (Figure 1a). This comes on the heels of the third lowest extent for the month in November 2024 (Figure 1b). The December extent was 40,000 square kilometers (15,000 square miles) below the previous record low for the month set in 2016, and 1.42 million square kilometers (548,000 square miles) below the 1981 to 2010 average. Including 2024, the downward linear trend in Arctic sea ice extent for December is 44,000 square kilometers (17,000 square miles) per year, or 3.4 percent per decade relative to the 1981 to 2010 average. Based on the linear trend, since 1979, December has lost 1.98 million square kilometers (764,000 square miles) of sea ice, which is equivalent to three times the size of Texas.
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NYC is one of the most photogenic spots when it snows.
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Hard to believe it’s been 10 years already. https://iso.500px.com/the-story-behind-the-most-viral-photo-from-blizzard2016/
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My guess is that NYC will be closer to 10° this weekend with the 0° readings in the outlying colder areas similar to the NDFD.
