tacoman25
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Lame cop out. Who here has "denied" climate change is happening? Some of you think that if people aren't freaking out and claiming the world is ending due to climate change, they're deniers. It's not that binary, that's not reality. "Oh no, someone pointed out that it's not record heat everywhere, all the time - they are a clearly a DENIER! Burn them at the stake."
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Yeah, that really captures it. The extreme cold was greater than the extreme warmth, as far as anomalies go.
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All models are now pretty much in agreement for a 2-4" event for the metro area Thursday afternoon and night. With higher amounts possible further south.
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Really depends on the location. Boulder saw their snowiest winter on record in 2019-20, and the last decade has been snowier there than the 1980s were. But yeah, this pattern has been the worst. At least it looks like we may get some snow in a few days.
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No, the original discussion that I have been a part of was also about Canada and AK. See the posts he was responding to. Context.
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And yet, since 2020 Phoenix has seen 7 record warm months and Flagstaff has seen 2. Seems relevant to a post specifically about record warm months.
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Just a brutal fall and early winter. Looks like only 2021 was drier in both the airport and long term city records for OND. The pattern persistence has been unreal. It wasn't the second warmest December in Denver records, though. Both 1933 and 1957 were warmer in the city station records. But it was the warmest for the airport stations. 1933 was legit, it's backed up by plenty of other temp records throughout the region and the West that year.
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Looks like 1980 remains the warmest December for Flagstaff. Lot of pattern similarities this winter to that one so far.
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Not when you include AK and Canada, which you can't with that map.
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Yeah, about 3/4" here as well.
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Oof, bad trend the past 24 hours. Half the models now show Denver getting skunked. Some still show 1-2".
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If December ended today, it would be Juneau's coldest on record.
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Is that not weather? And when you include AK, not even close to 2/3 of the country torched. Alaska is pretty big.
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Of course. It's just interesting that despite the warming we've seen, over the short term there can still be some very cold periods regionally. This convo started, of course, with short term extreme warmth examples - which also happened to a slightly less warm degree 100 years ago.
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All models showing around 2-3" for most the metro Sat night. We might somehow finish this craptastic month with a respectable amount of snowfall.
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Finally something to track!
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The thing is, similarly extreme patterns have happened in the past. Look at 1917 or 1933. Crazy warmth in some areas, crazy cold others. Main difference now is everything is a degree or two warmer - but 90% of it is driven by the pattern, which I don't believe is driven by AGW.
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Yeah, but all you see from the alarmists in this thread is examples of extreme warmth. Because...well, it makes more sense. Just reading this, you would have no idea that it's actually been quite cold throughout large parts of North America over the past month. This can and does still happen, despite AGW. And this map doesn't even include Alaska, where Juneau and Fairbanks are running -13 and -16 anomalies this month respectively.
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Looks like DEN hit 75 today, tying their all-time December high from 1980. The December record for Denver comes from the old city station in 1939, with an absurd temp of 79. So sick of this pattern we're stuck in, and it's awful for the mountains/ski season/tourism/etc. And still no sign of meaningful change 10-14 days down the road.
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Yeah, I saw a big dust cloud towards Boulder driving up to Thornton on 25 yesterday, but winds throughout most the metro area were pretty weak.
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Very persistent pattern. Something similar has happened before...1917 had an insanely warm and persistent pattern for the PNW/West. This one just looks a bit warmer and more persistent. Don't tell the residents of Juneau, Fairbanks, or Whitehorse that this is what future Decembers will look like. All three are on track for one of their coldest Decembers on record.
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I agree that wind events are more common in La Ninas. But the current pattern we've been stuck in for the past 10 days or so is atypical, with a parade of super-juiced, subtropical atmospheric rivers hitting the PNW, which is what's leading to this crazy westerly flow across the continent. It's leading to record warmth across the West, meanwhile up north they're in the deep freeze. Places like Juneau, AK are having one of the coldest Decembers in many years.
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Yep, raging Chinooks thanks to the Pacific firehouse that's been hitting the PNW. Hopefully this pattern doesn't persist too much longer.
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Meh, from watching those maps over the years, seems like we're in D1 or higher most the time. Nothing to really be concerned about until you get to D3.
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How can we forget the hundreds of millions of lives that were lost...
