We just had a 6-7 week period of earlier winter weather. I don't think anyone on here can look back and say the last several weeks were crap. We are about to go through a semi break. Is it a week or two? Is it longer? We don't really know. We also have to remember that a shutout in the midatlantic/DC area does not mean we are shutout around here. I really think some people expect snow around the holidays. I think I can count on one hand maybe two that we have seen snow around the holiday period. Our meat and potatoes are from mid January onward. It would be great to get winter from December 1 through March 31, but we don't live on the Tug hill. Once we get our first decent event, all will be forgotten.