Bubbler86

True nooners. 72 and sunny.

I will definitely concede that elevation is part of it but the models (especially the Nam) being off almost every day makes me think concrete and car exhaust are playing a role as well. Another point, it has simply not been humid overall this year. There have been days of course but one would think our temps may spike a bit more during the say with drier air but has not really been the case.

HRRR and 3K are both getting moderately more excited about LSV afternoon scattered convection tomorrow. GFS has a wet Saturday AM for the LSV as well.

Paweather early nooners....66 and Sunny.

Oh, my brazen comment was not directed at anything related to me. I meant people are brazen vs. what the GFS, Nam, etc. said. The HRRR has been running a bit closer to reality but almost everything has been too low including the hottie Euro (once in range, EC is often too high out past 72 hrs) . At my place the Nam and GFS high predicts have been almost spot on . Low predicts a bit too warm at night. The NWS forecasts highs have been too low way more often than not.

Prior to 1990 MDT had a Mean average of 77 or higher, for August, just 4 times in history (103 years). Since then it has achieved that 8 times counting this year. 8 times in 33 years. My mean of 71 this year would have been a little below average but not near a record prior to 1990. Since 1990 the lowest mean at MDT has been 71.6 which is the only time it was below 72. (Eye scanning numbers so may be off by one but the point is still made)

I am glad I have cashtown's equipment to back me up.

Your Top Ten August comment got me thinking as I was sitting here thinking this has been one of the coolest Augusts ever realizing some of that was elevation...but Dulles being 1.6 below MDT sort of clinched it a bit. The other thing that bothers me is how brazen everyone is stating that their high temps will beat model predictions. It has become common place. The models are partially based off past events which means...most days are hotter now than similar conditions would have made them in the past.

800' but this is my 4th summer here and we usually are within a degree or two of MDT's numbers for that year (average). Last August at this point we were banging an average temp HIGHER than MDT's numbers due to less rain/clouds and had close to 30 days of 90 or above just like MDT. The HIA has been extreme this year. We are 4 degrees lower on average than the last 3 Augusts here at this point so this has been a one time event. I remember doing daily posts last summer how we were pushing 90 by lunch over and over. Elevation is definitely playing a part as HGR is not as extreme to the cool as I am but something has been up this summer in the LSV HIA area. Like I said before, should MDT be warmer than Dulles? The heat in the urban areas has really stood out this summer. Last year Dulles and MDT were .1 different so basically the same. This year Dulles is 1.6 degrees cooler than MDT! Hard to think it is just clouds and rain being the difference over almost 3 months.

Average temp (high and low) over here so far in August has been about 71 putting us as a departure of about 5 below normal for Aug using MDT's normal. Both lows and highs have been below average most days. Most likely one of the coolest Augusts ever. I will concede that we probably average a bit lower each month than MDT but not to this level. I confirmed these numbers with Cashtown who had similar results. As a compare, last August I was running neck and neck with MDT's numbers as I have other summers here. This is the closest to a "summer with no summer" that I have ever experienced with only 5 days 90 or above and that number may hold for the final tally.

If that comes to fruition, the boo birds will be out. There is an article in a Florida newspaper about how Hurricane season is ramping up earlier and earlier. They printed it one year late.

Another early nooner in the books?

Tropical wise...carry on and enjoy your Vaca, Training. Looks to me that models are punting into Sept now.

Hopefully the next wetter period, starting Sunday (maybe Sat) produces better for you.

53 here this AM

If that is showing the north west edge (on my phone) then it would make some sense. That Cell that dropped over 2" just to their south cut off right over them.

I watched some of the cells just disintegrate. Sorry you got screwed.

@Blizzard of 93, does MDT keep their equipment at the end of this runway? One side of the airport got over 1" and the other, less than 1/10th of an inch.

.12 officially here. Not much.

Maybe MDT was on the other side of the house during a tropical downpour. There are some low reports North of MDT but check these out below. Cannot speak for New Cumberland but I had a spotter report of .38 in Camp Hill and .9 just north of Harrisburg in Susq. Twp. These cells suck the life out of those that just miss. Listing these Wunderground reports since that was used as an example earlier this week.

One of my spotters in Southern Susq. Twp is at .9" so almost an inch there.

I am guessing that is wrong but not sure the 3" is right either. I have on the ground spotter reports all around MDT in the .5-1" range. Have a Weather underground reporter right outside the airport reporting 1.49". The reports on weather underground can be suspect but usually not to the high side.

Highest estimated total I saw was 3" over Hill Island near MDT. Spotters I know have decent amounts but no major hits for them. 2" Est NW of Manchester York County.

Estimated has 1/2" just to your west. Close. Some 2" totals near Middletown. SWS out for York County and Northern Adams now.