Bubbler86

And to close out this subject my post yesterday simply said after watching post after post, in early December on the MA LR thread, that we would be rockin' now the current look of the MR models was little to no winter weather (or even temps once this cold snap is up) through the first 1/3 of Winter which I consider to be Jan 1. It was a huge reversal from what was supposed to happen per lots of "experts". Now among several posts over there referencing later January a red tagger named Millville weather referenced the second half of winter, including alluding to saying "It really stings to say second half...". and I thought it ironic that people over there are almost doubling down on my simple comment of the next two weeks not looking good.

Actually pretty much every post I read last evening was punt and second week of Jan or later....if they made a reference to time. A red tagger went as far as to reference second half of the season repeatedly when talking about hopes.

Lots of punting on first down in the MA thread. Have to smirk that my comment of not seeing much through Jan 1 caused such disdain yesterday and now the theme is mid to late Jan over there.

That's terrible. Prayers to all those involved.

Almost looks like your truck window is open.

Has a 998 SLP off the Carolina's on Christmas Eve AM while the GFS has a High in a fairly similar spot. LOL.

Euro bowling ball 12/26 and 12/27, with some scattered frozen in PA, at least SOMETHING to watch...quick warm up afterwards as it drags a warm front our way but better than watching the parade of highs on the GFS.

Unless one is forecasting the common MR models are very wrong, not until the last day or two of the year from what I saw last night. Unfortunately it would be a warm system as of now.

****Banter Warning-Its been snowing over here for about 30 min...mood flakes. Banter Warning Off**** The somewhat rare snow squall warning is out for Lycoming County-Sullivan County-Tioga County-

I do not think this group needs a banter thread. The "banter" here keeps this group alive.

Not nervous here just pointing out that the models have punted the next two-three weeks as to showing a pattern conducive to winter weather here. Maybe the punt returner will fumble and we will get the ball back sooner than we think (re: the models are still wrong).

And just to clarify I am not at all saying "winter is over". LOL But I have seen a lot of "Winter has not even started" posts (mostly in MA) and I do not agree with that concept which would suggest that March 20th is a more wintry time than Dec 20th. It's just not a good sign when long rangers are talking about sustained cold finally getting here in mid January a week or two after posting how great the upcoming late December pattern was going to be.

The Sun Angle crew is already frothing up.

Just the first 1/3 snow wise. Bring on our upper 50's for Monday! At least Christmas might require a light wind breaker :-).

It's just not the same to me. In March the end is near and there is little chance of keeping a snow pack in March. I guess I get irritated when I see the posts, on Dec 17th, that winter has not started yet. They are just folks trying to make the bad news hurt less. LOL. It makes it worse that I read dozens of no nothing tweets, copied over to the MA thread, from amateur Met's who said we would be rockin' right now. I think some of the posts just from a couple weeks ago suggested we were heading into one of our best patterns in years.

We are pretty much punting the first 1/3 of winter if the long range models are correct so we better enjoy this cold weather the rest of the week. And please no winter has not started yet replies, LOL...winter is 17 days old and will be 1/3 over when the turn to 2020. December is more Winter than March.

We have decent returns over us right now with elevated surfaces freezing rain...no snow yet from the second round. 31.

I am sure glad this December is shaping up to be a great one per all the Twitter feeds people keep posting on the MD LR Thread! What's that? That was last week? Shorts on Christmas? Tweeting long scientific looking posts does not actually equate to snow? We will be rockin' in Mid-January?

LOL, I did not even see it...I have been so busy I have only stopped in here a few min here and there. But thanks.

I am going with about 1.5" here. Side roads are covered. 2 hour delay in local Waynesboro schools at this point.

"G" is dreaming of a White Christmas. @daxx turn your eyes away.

On the plus side, and has been commented a lot I believe, this year is already better than last as far as not having to deal with a frying pan December. I know we in or near the LSV were already at 5-10" by this point but a warm December and Christmas is the worst. Still could be warm by the time we get there but so far so good with only occasional spikes in temps.

Seasons first Winter Storm Watch is in the queue waiting to be released Saturday.

Not posting much with being in Florida but had to post the 0Z EC snow map with it's almost all of PA sized snow hole.

The 12Z Nam is going to be warning criteria accums for Western LSV on Wed. Just a bit warm at the surface.