I dont know of any winter enthusiasts, who primarily make up the population of this forum, who wouldn't want wall to wall winter. Having said that, yes, everyone knows our climo here and the best we can expect is periods of winter mixed in with warmer episodes. But, this is not what has happened. It's been 8 weeks of spring with one week of winter. We should be able to do better than that in an El-nino. Who knows, maybe they'll be an epic period to close it out, although, by the time it gets here we'll be fighting an uphill struggle with climo.