Yes. One way or another. We need to see some sst gradients otherwise it's useless. I imagine other factors would just take over. Like a enso neutral. Not really much of a gradient in 18-19, just warm all over. Hopefully it's not a totally permanent feature yet, but the outlook isn't great. I'd like to give a moderate one a shot. We haven't done that in a while. But I think a strong one is coming sooner rather than later. This mjo has been downwelling that record warm water during this time. I'm curious to see what happens with that.