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Everything posted by OceanStWx
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Sure, but that means you have to factor in all the upper air patterns that match and by no means are the analogs a lock on widespread heavy snowfall. What these tell me is that the coast looks pretty locked in, even the bad ones still caught the coast with decent snow. But there are also a couple complete whiffs in there. I don't think that happens obviously, but it goes to show you that this type of upper air pattern can produce many different results.
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Yeah... I think I'm pretty good, but I can't computer all this environmental info in my head. I have to base it on something. And right now I don't see a lot of evidence for high confidence historic storm. Locally? Maybe. But to do historic at the 4 major climate sites you need at least 17 at BDL and PVD to be in the top 10 2 day snowfalls, and 22 at ORH and BOS.
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As I get crustier I'm more convinced than ever that we (NWS) shouldn't entertain 24+ in our forecasts until we see the whites in the eyes of a band. It gets forecasts into trouble more often than not. We always seem to chase the peak runs in the 48-24 hour window and inevitably have to back off inside that in most areas. I think the last 72 hours at least have been pretty consistent from an ensemble perspective, despite what individual members/models had.
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That's Kevin's opinion because it doesn't have as much snow as he wants. It is definitely a tool any office can use (we have QPF available to bring into the forecast). But every office does their own ratios and weather grids to create snowfall amounts, so no they didn't just pull in the HREF snow amounts.
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I think this is the correct take. Take the climo average during this event because of the wind. But under the band will probably be able to push 15:1 still. But ratios rely on so much more than temp alone that I really don't factor them in at all other than is the lift collocated with the ideal temps.