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Honestly the helicopter might take the blame. But in no way should a helicopter even be that close with a jet landing. It is normal to have jets fly over top but typically the minimum spacing is 200 feet. The fact that plane is landing that helicopter should have been told to hold until landing traffic has passed. These flights happen a lot and helicopters fly that route 4 many times a day. When the jets land the other runway they are coming in at pattern altitude to come downwind to turn final to land. So it’s rarely an issue. I know first thing a lot of people say is why didn’t they see each other. It’s way harder than you think. At the same time that is why we have instruments to let us know.

The helicopter crew two pilots likely would be wearing night vision goggles. It’s like looking through binoculars. Your peripheral vision is not great. If they looked and saw the departing jet which is the wrong jet, maybe they thought no factor they would be focused on the path in front of them. I know few people close to this unit and it’s said she was the pilot in command of this flight but most likely flown dual pilots. I would think the jet would have had a better chance to see the helicopter. What stinks about this is anything above 1000 feet the jets have auto deviation system to avoid accidents. Down below 1000 it’s get disabled because of all the traffic landing taking off. I will say this with city lights you can lose visual of traffic very easily. The lights blend in with all the city lights. I think what is more odd to me is both these aircraft have something called TCAS. It will literally show you the plane or helicopter direction of flight and how many feet it is above or below you. TCAS will scream warnings at you about traffic near you. I don’t know if they disabled them for landing and traffic because it can become annoying with the warnings. I still think this all falls on wrong altitude of Helicopter. But why would ATC let a helicopter cross that close to landing traffic? It’s very easy to put helicopter in a hold for landing traffic done all the time. Why did ATC not say helicopter check altitude? Why did the airplane not do a go around with traffic that close to him? A lot went wrong that night.

Special disorientation very well could be problem. We operate 4 medevac jets out of capital city airport. Had a jet in the area weather was really bad tonight. No distress call at all from the pilots. If it’s not spacial disorientation that is a pretty catastrophic parts failure. I can tell you losing one engine or both would not make you go nose down. With the no distress call I would lean pilot error. DC crash I have flown that same corridor in a helicopter. You have to be 200 feet or less. I have no idea why she would have been near 400 feet. Tower didn’t give a lot of time for separation. I would think the helicopter pilot was told to remain visual separation and she did reply she had traffic. I think she had the wrong jet. The other factor that night, planes rarely land that direction but they had strong southerly winds that night. Just a perfect storm but still don’t know why she would have been that high with landing traffic near by. Just my two cents.

Absolutely insane how hard it’s snowing. Been a long time and the wind has really picked up.

Up by ski roundtop and it’s been snowing for about an hour already a solid coating.

I saw this and said the same thing. AIRCRAFT CRASH-1A 186 Airport Rd East Donegal Township 1 AIRCRAFT DOWN ON THE RUNWAY EVERYONE HAS BEEN FOUND 3 PEOPLE JUMP FROM THE PLANE THEY ARE SCATTER AROUND THE FIELD CMD 79 WANTS TO FIND AND BE CHECK BY EMS HOLDING TO STATION 79 AND EMS CAN RECALL NO INJURIES INCIDENT HAS BEEN CLEARED

We have a hangar at the captial city airport in New Cumberland and part of our roof blew off today.

It’s real the video is posted in the hurricane forum. @Niborposted it.

Yeah that was crazy, it did one of the craziest splits I have ever seen. To the west of me tons of trees down flooding and hail. To the east of me same thing. Saw the storms heard them for hours and got little rain.

That cell in York is producing a lot of damage and flooding. Multiple trees down on structures coming in. A lot of hail as well.

Dang not a drop today, heard thunder all day. Can see the rain to my north Harrisburg cell.

I had the same thing in northern York. Could hear the wind coming. All the winds in the past year never moved my kid’s trampoline, mind you it’s tied to a massive log. It lifted the trampoline until it broke the rope tossed it about 20 to 30 feet in the air. I ran out to secure it so it didn’t hit the house as I did so stuff blew over my Neighbors house to the left, then switched and started blowing over my neighbors house to the right. Tossed my chairs all around by the fire pit. Not sure what it was but was very strong and swirled. Heard sirens for the next 15 minutes non stop. Bunch of trees down and one landed on a car that was driving. This was between ski roundtop and Pinchot lake.

Wow got hit really hard trees down all over. Sirens blasting for last 15 minutes.

Yeah, I am not that far south from Harrisburg live in Northern York and have a massive inch of snow. Road and sidewalks just wet. A lot of models showed a screw zone and I think we found it. Ohh well onto the next.

I am at camelback and it snowed about an inch. All rain currently.

Yeah I agree. It didn’t blow off and over. Lifted and had rotation if you ask me. Guess we will find out soon. Hard to tell in the video but almost looked like a darker area extending from the sky to the building.

Starting to get frustrated with PPL. Looks like they didn’t fix any power outages last night. Been out since 8:30 last night. Now they changed all the estimated repair times to unknown. It wasn’t very widespread at all.

Wow wish I could post the video, intense hail.

Thunder and lightning 3 miles from Ski Roundtop. Crazy part wind is calm now.

Wind was 300 landed runway 30 so wasn’t terrible. Landing Teterboro was nasty crosswind.

Amen try being a pilot, coming into capital city airport yesterday gusting 50 is not fun at all.

Close to a big hit on the Euro, will take that with how over amped it is with every storm.

They have a full summer camp now, tons of zip lines, bumper boats, fishing, geo balls etc. no mountain biking. They did not open all the slopes this year and would say ran around 65 to 75 percent most the year.

One last final kick in the balls. York and Lancaster have to be less the 6 inch total this year.

I agree with you on this. I can’t remember a year we failed every storm. I was with Roundtop management last night. They can’t believe how many nights they couldn’t even blow snow this year. They close Sunday and couldn’t even do the pond skimming this year do to lack of snow. Most nights they did blow they said they typically would not have in the past. What’s everyone’s season total?