OSUmetstud
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I dont believe the data is fabricated. I believe that anyone who creates a website like that without context is doing so without good intentions.
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Yeah I guess I mean its going to be used for those purposes. The data itself is the data. I would he highly suspicious of the motivations of the people created that site.
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Talk to your doctor. This whole site is amateur hour.
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The problem here is that you actually believe that you are properly equipped and informed to decide on your relative risk of getting covid complications vs. your relative risk of getting vaccine complications. You are not. Reading that website without proper analysis or context will cause you to overweigh vaccine risk...which is what you've been doing since the jump.
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It's intended to drive fear. It's obvious. There is absolutely no context behind the numbers reported on that site. I should create a site with all the reports of people who get sick or die after taking Tylenol. It would scare the shit out of you.
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https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9957832237
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That's an anti vax site.
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No...I think I'll have to wait until may/June. We dont have the supply here.
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Europe has more vaccine hesitancy in general for all vaccines. It was apparent before covid.
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Ehh...accidental deaths are up 19k (mostly overdose). That's pretty significant. Restrictions and lockdowns are a necessary evil at times but they aren't without negative downstream effects.
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Driven by overdose. It mentions it in the paper.
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234?guestAccessKey=0b94e087-4b87-458d-b869-a1aa164eb8a6&utm_source=silverchair&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jama&utm_content=olf&utm_term=033121
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I think it was more McCabe that was helping him but agreed.
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Still a bad hockey player...
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Not sure about verified information but scientists are always combing through that. It's the reason that some European countries and Canada suspects theres some potential link between a rare blood clot disorder and the azn Oxford vaccine. It's not being used for those under 55 here.
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Science isn't done by anecdotes.
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You're misinterpreting that data.
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No. That's not what I'm saying at all. If there was evidence of a problem it would be found. Vaccine deaths are almost unheard of in modern times.
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Anyone can report anything in those forms. If there was actually 1600 vaccine related deaths it would be pulled immediately. This system exists so that scientists can examine data and see if there's a causal link between adverse events and or death and the vaccine. 3 million or so people die in the US per year. Some of these people would have gotten the vaccine. These vaccines only have an effect on covid, they don't prevent any other conditions people suffer from or die from.
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Interesting. Russia has the second highest (tracked) excess deaths in the world at 355 per 100000 https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
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I dont think it will be eradicated. Theres too many animal reservoirs.
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Theres definitely value in being over herd immunity. Herd immunity initially will not be particularly stable if there is open international travel. We could be looking at 2023 or 2024 until vaccines get around to the poorer areas of the world. There could be still pockets where there's more vaccine hesitancy so there's more outbreaks. Getting the most vaccinated as possible should be the goal.
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Yeah you could for sure. I don't think there's a definitive answer here but I've just noticed the estimates of asymptomatics have fallen through the pandemic. I believe the UK only estimated 20% and CDC prepandemic planning scenario had 40%. I dont think we have data on covid symptoms vs vaccine side effects for different age cohorts but I am absolutely sure that the relative risk of covid death and complications is far greater at any age than the US approved vaccines.
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I think that 62% is inflated. The more recent estimates seem much lower. This particular report by the CDC only estimates 12% asymptomatic. The "side effects" are literally your immune system working. I wish people would just be cool with that lol. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html
