powderfreak

Ah that's what he meant. I thought he had a minor stroke while typing that.

Quarter inch of rain this morning and a high of 61F so far today. It's up here.

I'm back in Stowe...welcome back to 58F at 1pm in June. Jacket and pants abound.

20 acre landslide in the Cottonbrook area of Stowe. Over 9" of rain since May 1st. Impacting the popular recreation area off Nebraska Valley road. Cottonbrook Road closed. https://www.wcax.com/content/news/Major-landslide-damages-Mt-Mansfield-State-Forest-trail-510776551.html

Over 9" of rain since May 1st. I see on the news there was a major landslide in Stowe. Estimated at 20 acres wide (that's huge). STOWE, Vt. (WCAX) An active landslide has damaged a popular trail in the Mount Mansfield State Forest in Stowe. Officials have blocked off the Cottonbrook Road trailhead off the Nebraska Valley Road, and those familiar with the area say the damage is devastating. "The road was somewhere right here," said Steve Torrey with Snowmobile Vermont. "Trees falling, rocks tumbling, mud moving." Torrey saw the damage when he rode his ATV up Cottonbrook Road early Sunday morning. "Acres upon acres of the forest completely disappeared. It had just slid off the side of the mountain and the river was washing it away. There was cracks in the soil leading up to the edge of the slide where you could tell that there had been structural damage to the mountain side" he said. A group of mountain bikers alerted Torrey to the slide Saturday afternoon. When he saw it Sunday morning, he estimated it was about 20 acres wide, and actively taking out Fosters Trail and portions of Cottonbrook Road. Since then, he guesses it's grown exponentially. "There's a good chance it doubled in size overnight" he said.

SLK hard freeze at 30/29 at 4am.

SLK's highest temperature since 1pm has been 43F . Nothing like 04/02 for a Metar temp at 17z on a June afternoon...along with 26kt breeze. KSLK 031709Z AUTO 26014G26KT 230V290 3SM -RA BR SCT014 BKN024 OVC034 04/02 A2980 RMK AO2 PK WND 27026/1703 P0005 T00440022 TSNO

Man this is nuts for a June afternoon around diurnal max heating. 44F back at the base of the Ski Resort in sheet rains. Down in Stowe Village the PWS are 46F-49F. 42F at Bolton Valley base area. 34-35F at the summits.

October 3rd. I've seen freezing rain in September on the mountain but never straight snow (it's usually because the orographic precip lift happens so low in the atmosphere that even -3C 850mb can just be super cooled water droplets)....but the COOP has recorded September snow before and I believe even late-August traces as well.

This is pretty rough for June 3rd at max heating back home in Stowe. Almost 3pm and 51/36 at 700ft MVL. Rain cooled air but still...yikes.

Nice I saw that. The radar had that cold season upslope showers look...like October style appeal. No surprise there's flakes up high. The only time I saw June flakes was 2-3 years ago on like June 13th on Mansfield. Luckily got video of it, as you need proof on that date ha.

Look like it's 50s over 40F at home and raining. Winter-like NW flow orographic rains, ha.

Me too, ball buster by nature. And I love how you put that, no one gets any recognition for their contribution on the internet so who cares in the end ha. Regarding the current weather and cold tendencies...the models are showing a bit warmer relative to normal than May's -3 chill, but the persistence of the trough in the Maritimes into Quebec really make it hard to think a warm pattern (relative to normal) is taking place. Its not like posters are ignoring a massive H5 eastern ridge to Quebec City and trying to spin that into cold. Bagginess in the heights over NNE into ENE and certainly into the Maritimes begs for tempered expectations when it comes to summer heat (again heat being sustained above normal pattern).

I get it. Your hatrid for those that enjoy cooler weather on the forums, almost make one wish for chilly temps despite it sucking sensibly, just to get you to go on that daily rant when a negative anamoly map is posted . With that said, bring on weeks of 70s to low 80s with crisp Cu floating through the blue.

The nearest PWS to home had 38F this morning after a half inch of rain. Should be a crisp night back there in NNE.

So hard to decide what the snow depth is at this point of the season, but NWS went with 9" for the Mt Mansfield COOP, which seems about right. From over 10 feet to this in June... Heres the photo from this morning a coworker sent me. 9" seems fair. June 13, 1965 was latest 1" reading. Mean last 1" depth is May 24th. Record for June 2nd is an astonishing 46" in 1997.

July 2016 was decently low dews I think. We had 12 days of mins at or below 50F. 2013 was nice but yeah your overall point is right, it wants to be humid more often than not. I don't have the historical perspective on summer weather though to really know what happened besides past ten years.

Looks like it was a chilly morning back home too.

Yup, just as was mentioned yesterday after the Euro run. Sustained heat looks a ways off. Late next week though could pop a couple real nice days on the 12z GFS with 70s/80s.

Out of town but web cam looks like what you see. The black line is roughly 2,200ft as I know the elevation of those trail intersections. Looks still pretty bare above 2,500ft. The Spruce forest starts around 3,500ft. The building lower left is 1,550ft Mtn Operations Center.

For me sustained heat means like week long run of 80s or higher now that we are in June. You didn't want people to make sarcastic comments about June being warmer than May right? It wont be 55F and drizzle forever, so we assume it will get warmer heading to June...heat relative to climate norms. "Hot" or "heat" would be indicative of a sustained above normal climo pattern, which that particular Euro run did not show. It will likely change but that run was what was commented on.

Sub 0C 850s up here on Tuesday and then again the following weekend in Day 8-10 range. The 850 anomalies are pretty nuts. No way that verified as we've seen the Euro too deep with those troughs many times...but that model argues that any sustained heat is a while off.

Yeah, though a very few extremely fit or genetically freakish people can do it without supplemental oxygen. They have caches all over, and many have died by swapping an empty for an empty in their delirious mental state. That should almost be the bigger outrage on Everest... the trash on the mountain. Places look like landfills where they stash the empty bottles. The pictures of that are incredible. Nothing gets removed from the mountain, even the dead bodies usually stay up there.

Not like what just happened but there have been deaths due to slow travel at the same choke point, the Hillary Step where people couldn't get down quick enough out of the death zone. They should also travel more widely spaced on the guide lines. In theory you should be crossing those open slopes with a good deal of distance between each other, so when an avalanche hits only one or two die instead of a dozen bunched together. Once on the ridge you can stay together but several of the larger fatal accidents involve a bunch of people getting hit by an avalanche while 50 yards away remained untouched. I love talking about this stuff... mountains and weather and anything including one of those things.

At least Tamarack reads my posts lol. They need to limit the number of daily summit attempts. Very simple. And on the side...I still don't get how texting and driving isn't willfully endangering other's lives. You seem to think it's not that big a deal.