powderfreak

Ok, you just seemed annoyed in the original post that Fisher was saying it was incredibly hot in Boston and then said something about yes for the guys working on the tarmac.

I bet it was pretty damn hot walking through Boston yesterday lol.

Local private stations have dropped to 68F in Stowe Village... the 68F on the PWS's is the coldest temperature in 2.5 days. That's pretty impressive for up here, going that long without seeing 68F or lower. The odd thing is MVL came in with 76/59, which seems like they are still well mixed.

Looks like autumn is just around the corner there with bare trees already... is that from the gypsies?

Last night's 83F min will certainly help bring those up for BOS. Also, BOS getting the 90F by 9... except it's 9pm. Still an absolute torch to be 90F at this time of day. No way it drops below the 83F minimum by midnight at this rate.

Still a summer evening with dews of 65F... just not as oppressively hot out but certainly feels like summer. Though it certainly isn't like HFD's 88/70 reading for 9pm. Even BDL is down to 85/66... but man that HFD reading is pretty crazy for 9pm.

Comfy 77 here Down to 70F up here. This morning’s low of 72F is wiped out and likely will be further by midnight.

But “dry” doesn’t really have anything to do with temps does it? BTV is on the same train... temps rising again mid/upper 80s next weekend but drier with comfy RH: “Progged 925mb temps warm back into the 22-24c range by next weekend, supporting highs back into the mid/upper 80s, but with relatively comfortable rh values. Overnight lows mainly in the l/m 50s mtn valleys to l/m 60s.”

Hard to argue with that MADIS shift at BOS. It just woke up one week and decided to start verifying 2F too warm.

lol. You should try to find a site’s 1-min obs...they’ll be all over the place. I used to look at them at Stowe on the Snowmaking system and in a span of like 10 minutes the temp would be all over. Could be 67F then drop to 63F then back up to 66F, then 64F then back to 67F... and averaged it all just shows up as obs of 65F and 65F.

I could see that. A decade ago you’d look at the PWS maps and they’d be littered with torching thermometers. A sunny day of 90F at ASOS sites would show a smattering of 95-98F PWS scattered around. Those maps are much more consistent now...more uniform with less of those obviously torched home stations.

ORH has a couple days last week they were like a healthy 10-12F lower than BDL for highs. I brought it up because it’s like twice the dry lapse rate. DIT in his heavily forested yard makes more sense with the canopy.

And it always seems because we think they run warm. Seems much rarer to get one questioned on the cool side.

How would you not be convinced if Innedsnow also hit 100F and BAF is 98F and possibly still rising? I really don’t see any reason why 100F couldn’t have been hit. Temps bounce around all day long, but smoothed our follow a diurnal curve usually. But it might have just been warm enough to get 100F for a 5-min average... while BAF hit 100F but the 5-min average wasn’t enough to get that registered.

12-1pm. Whats your new elevation? You have to be 90F or higher right?

78F up here at 1pm... SNE will be 20-degrees warmer than us this afternoon. FROPA is through, wind is now NNW after a brief shower. Early high of 83F at 11am...now falling into 70s.

I’m assuming Brian is calculating it from degrees Celsius in the METARS? I was curious too how you get a 98 or 99 but that’s all I can think of, going off the C readings.

Starting tomorrow through Thursday the highest temp forecast by NWS is 75F. That’ll feel refreshing. Highs mid-week may struggle to get to last night’s low of 72F. Tuesday....Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Light and variable winds. Tuesday Night...Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. Wednesday...Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Wednesday Night...Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 50s.

Back to back 90s at ORH would be pretty impressive, not sure it gets there.

Yeah I get ya though as unfortunately OKX has had some interesting winter storm snowfall forecast busts in recent years.

I bet they miss a forecast high by 3-5F once a week in either direction.... just nobody cares if it’s forecast 82F and it ends up being 78F due to some clouds. I mean increased morning cloudiness is more than enough to do that. Maybe I’m being too easy on the forecasters but I just don’t see the “head scratcher” when everyone was talking about why it missed yesterday (mid/high level cloudiness).

Ok ha that’s completely different, I agree there.

True I guess... I just feel like model forecasts aiming for the tails of the whisker plots (extremes) are much more prone to that type of outcome. Sort of like Tip and Dendrite, I guess I was skeptical of a bunch of hundos all over. I figured 95-99F with high dews is how that modeled outcome usually works out. But same in winter, I feel skeptical of those ridiculously cold max temps the models like to show from time to time. At least up this way it was spot on... 89-92F with lows near 70F for two days.

Yeah I’m not sure I get the bust calls. I mean I guess it’s like thinking you have a shot at a sub-zero high temp in winter and it ends up a high of +4F instead... but winds were higher and it’s still fukkin brutally cold out there. Its not 100F but 96/76 is about as hot and humid as it gets for New England.

Same temp there... 89F at both unless you are thinking MVL.