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it hit 25 in April 1977...less than a week later it was 90...then it snowed in May...a few weeks later it was 90 again...the 70's were noted fot late season cold and early season cold...
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Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
uncle W replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
i got used to busts growing up in the 1960's...I woke up to a heavy snow warning only to see the Sun out when I looked out my window...probably happened in Jan. 62...One day in Jan 1965 I went to bed with no snow in the forecast and awoke to a heavy snow warning... -
the same dates as the Dec 1973 ice storm...that winter was mediocre but better than all the early 1970's winters...
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why most people were cookie cutting the la nina long range failed to look back at the years that were like this...this year is like 1973-74 on steroids...
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NYC needs 6.8" by March 1st to reach 30" in 30 days...a big chunk if not all will be added after this storm...it needs 6.7" by Feb 24th for the 30/30...1973-74 was an analog with late season snows...those 1970's analogs with February being the coldest month had record or near record cold in April...lets hope that doesn't happen...I rather have 80 and Sunny by then but who knows for sure...the first warm day is a different kind of rush to the senses...
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record snow for 2/18 in NYC is 3.5" in 1928...its 12.7" on 2/19/79...
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winter months when the temperature stayed below 50 in Central Park since 1958...... month year.......max min...snowfall... February 1958...49.....3...10.7" February 1968...49.....5.....1.1" January 1969.....48...11.....1.0" February 1969...44...17...16.6" January 1971.....46.....4...11.4" January 1977.....44....-2...13.0" February 1978...41...10...23.0" January 1981.....49.....2.....8.0" February 1986...48...18.....9.9" February 2007...49.....8.....3.8" January 2009.....47.....6.....9.0" February 2010...46...17...36.9" February 2015...43.....2...13.6"
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Central Park had 80 days in a row below 50 degrees from 12/29/68-3/15/69...that year had blocking 24/7 all winter...ok maybe a few hours off...this year with less cold and similar blocking we got more snow...
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coldest Tampa was in Dec 1962...18...
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the 1980's had colder temps in Tampa... 21 January 21, 1985 19 December 26, 1983 22 January 13, 1981
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Newark had 10" of snow on the ground this morning and the 13th day this month there was at least 10" of snow on the ground sometime during the day...8 in a row now...2014 had 9 in a row from the 13th-21st and 10 overall...1994 had 8 in a row and 9 overall...1961 had 7 all in a row...2003 and 2011 6...I think this is a new record for Newark Airport...
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I think there was a sharp rise in the AO just before the blizzard of 2016...it was almost a -5sd...
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# dates..................-AO.......weather... 1...01/15/1977.....-7.433...biggest snowfall of the season followed right after and below zero temps four days later...very cold winter... 5...03/05/1970.....-6.365...temp drops to 20 for the coldest of the month...Easter snowstorm 3/29...very cold winter... 6...01/19/1985.....-6.226...cold wave with below zero temps a day later...biggest snowstorm that winter on 2/5-6 of 5.7"...4.1" on 1/18... 10 11/18/1959.....-5.896...6-14" snowstorm on 12/22...14.5" snowstorm March 3-4th... 11 12/21/2009.....-5.821...snowstorm 12/19-20...Feb snowstorms... 14 03/20/2013.....-5.688...snowstorm 3/18...11" snowstorm in Feb...to late in the season... 18 01/03/2010.....-5.533...two snowstorms in Feb... 28 02/05/1978.....-5.291...blizzard 2/6-7... 30 02/13/1969.....-5.282...snowstorm 2/9-10... 31 12/18/2010.....-5.265...blizzard 12/26-27 and 1/26-27... 39 01/28/1966.....-5.130...KU snowstorm 1/29-30...7" in NYC...coldest temp of the winter...1/28... 42 10/18/2002.....-5.098...early Dec snowstorm...Big Feb snowstorm... 45 01/21/1963.....-5.010... 4 degrees 1/24...4-5" of snow 1/26...biggest of the season...very cold winter...
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1973-74 was one of the analogs that had the snowiest coldest month in Feb...that winter had its share of ice also...
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NYC only 2009-10 had three 10" storms...but 1960-61 had three with one being 9.9"...Newark had three in 1957-58 and 1960-61...
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I count it...In March 1970 the ao dropped to -6sd...it took four weeks before NYC saw a snowstorm...the Easter 1970 storm...
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the same reason millions of Americans drive... when you look back at this winter it was a winter with a -5sd ao and had a major blizzard...comes with territory...as the block eases we are missing the big storm I envisioned..,there is still time left for another big one...after the ao gets slightly positive it could get negative again for some March madness...TWT...
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NYC got 9.1" of snow in Dec 66...23.6" in Feb 67...Newark had 13" in Dec and 25" in Feb...1961-62 had a 10" snowfall in Dec and 13" more fell in Feb in small doses...
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streaks of seven days or more with at least 1" of snow on the ground in February at Newark... 1946 from the 19th-26th... 1947 from the 20th-28th...11" max depth on the 21st... 1948 from the 1st-17th.....11" max depth on the 5th... 1958 from the 15th-25th...13" max depth on the 16th... 1961 from the 1st-19th.....26" max depth on the 4th.. 1962 from the 9th-17th... 1966 from the 1st-10th... 1967 from the 6th-15th.....15" max depth on the 7th... 1969 from the 9th-28th.....14" max depth on the 10th... 1972 from the 19th-26th... 1974 from the 4th-12th..... 1976 from the 2nd-10th... 1977 from the 3rd-10th... 1978 from the 6th-28th.....19" max depth on the 7th... 1979 from the 7th-24th.....19" max depth on the 20th... 1983 from the 6th-19th.....19" max depth on the 12th... 1985 from the 1st-12th... 1986 from the 7th-18th... 1994 from the 8th-21st.....18" max depth on the 12th... 1995 from the 4th-11th... 1996 from the 2nd-9th..... 2000 from the 1st-9th... 2003 from the 7th-28th.....23" max depth on the 18th... 2005 from the 20th-28th..... 2006 from the 11th-17th...20" max depth on the 12th...est... 2007 from the 14th-20th... 2010 from the 10th-20th...13" max depth on the 10th... 2011 from the 1st-14th.....15" max depth on the 1st... 2014 from the 3rd-24th.....18" max depth on the 14th.... 2015 from the 1st-28th..... 2017 from the 9th-15th..... 2021 from the 1st-13 and counting...............17" max depth...
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2021 has 13 counting 1/31 and today...
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OBS and nowcast mainly midnight - Noon Thursday Feb 11
uncle W replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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2020-21 noted for snowstorms... winters with a -5sd ao... winter.......AO min. date......winter noted for... 1976-77...-7.433...01/15/1977...severe cold... 1969-70...-6.365...03/05/1970...severe cold... 1984-85...-6.226...01/19/1985...severe cold... 2009-10...-5.821...12/21/2009...snowstorms... 2012-13...-5.688...03/20/2013...Feb snowstorm... 1977-78...-5.291...02/05/1978...Jan/Feb snowstorms... 1968-69...-5.282...02/13/1969...Feb snowstorm... 2010-11...-5.172...12/18/2010...snowstorms... 1965-66...-5.130...01/28/1966...late Jan snowstorm... 1962-63...-5.010...01/21/1963...severe cold... 2015-16...-4.916...01/17/2016...Jan snowstorm... 2000-01...-4.854...02/25/2001...Dec snowstorm... 1959-60...had a -5sd in Nov...March snowstorm 2002-03...had a -5sd in Oct...snowy winter...
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on this date in 1969 we were digging out and 2010 it was coming down...I got 13" in 2010 on SI...1969 was bigger...The 69 storm was unsceen by forecasters until it was sceen...2010 was forecast pretty good...
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the AO forecast is still going with a -5sd which would be in the magic zone...today was about -4.6sd...I can't imagine cutters with the huge block we have...tmy money is on another blockbuster before its over...
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