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Agree i was just outlining the change and not pro or con the change. Id leave it the way it is which is the most likely path.

Yes remember well. Perhaps just keep it the way it is. Its dark for the early highschool busses already from 545 - 720. Its the younger grades that are impacted between 730 and 8 if remaining on DST.

In NYC the latest sunrise of 7:20AM would be 8:20 and the earliest sunset of 4:28 would be 5:28 and 6PM sunsets would start in mid January under perm DST,

Id wager it doesnt't pass its been on and off again. I believe DST was tried 1973 year round and quickly reverted back. Late morning or later sunsets - how much energy is truly saved.

The Sunshine Bill has been reintroduced. This bill would allow states (like AZ) to decide to participate in DST and others to remain on DST. https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/2025/1/sen-rick-scott-leads-bipartisan-bill-to-lock-the-clock I had thought that there was movement to end DST but havet seen any counter bills only this D.ST permanent bill. States like NY and NJ would likely follow the federal guidance and change clocks ahead and then stay on DS

old period daily dep: Jan 4 EWR: 36 / 28 (-2) NYC: 33 / 28 (-4) LGA: 34 / 29 (-4) JFK: 37 / 30 (0 E) -------------------------------------------------- Jan 5: EWR: 36 / 28 (-2) NYC: 33 / 28 (-4) LGA: 34 / 28 (-4) JFK: 37 / 29 (-1) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 6: EWR: 31 / 22 (-6) NYC: 30 / 22 (-8) LGA: 33 / 23 (-7) JFK: 33 / 24 (-5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 7 EWR: 35 / 19 (-6) NYC: 33 / 19 (-8) LGA: 34 / 20 (-8) JFK: 36 / 20 (-6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jan 8 EWR: 32 / 22 (-6) NYC: 30 / 23 (-7) LGA: 31 / 24 (-7) JFK: 33 / 24 (-4) ---------------------------- Jan 9 EWR: 36 / 22 (-4) NYC: 33 / 22 (-6) LGA: 34 / 24 (-6) JFK: 37 / 24 (-2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NYC Jan 10 - 11, 1954: 8.5 inches of snow falls over 48 hours

Records: Highs: EWR: 65 (2016) NYC: 60 (1876) LGA: 59 (2016) JFK: 58 (2016) Lows: EWR: 0 (1982) NYC" -3 (1875) LGA: 2 (2004) JFK: 2 (2004) Historical: 1800 - Savannah, GA, received a foot and a half of snow, and ten inches blanketed Charleston SC. It was the heaviest snowfall of record for the immediate Coastal Plain of the southeastern U.S. (David Ludlum) 1800: According to David Ludlum, Savannah, Georgia, received a foot and a half of snow and ten inches blanketed Charleston, SC. It was the heaviest snowfall of record for the immediate Coastal Plain of the southeastern U.S. 1911 - The temperature at Rapid City, SD, plunged 47 degrees in just fifteen minutes. (The Weather Channel) 1949 - Snow was reported at San Diego, CA, for the first and only time since 1882. Snow was noted even on some of the beaches in parts of the Los Angeles metropolitan area. Burbank reported 4.7 inches, and Long Beach and Laguna Beach received one inch of snow. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1949: Snow was reported in San Diego, California, for the first time since 1882. The snow was noted on some of the beaches in parts of the Los Angeles metropolitan area. 1975 - The "Storm of the Century" hit Minnesota. A severe blizzard moved northward across the state producing up to two feet of snow. High winds drove wind chill readings to 80 degrees below zero, and at Duluth MN the barometric pressure dipped to 28.55 inches. The storm, which claimed 35 lives, occurred on the 102nd anniversary of the infamous "Pioneer Blizzard" in Minnesota. (David Ludlum) 1982 - The temperature at O'Hare Airport in Chicago, IL, plunged to an all-time record of 26 degrees below zero, and high winds drove the wind chill reading to 77 degrees below zero. The temperaturein Downtown Chicago reached 23 degrees below zero. A week later a second arctic surge sent the temperature plunging back down to 25 degrees below zero. (Weather Channel) (National Weather Summary) 1982: Bitterly cold weather was found across Illinois. Of the 109 weather reporting stations in the state, 48 of those reported lows of 20 degrees below zero or colder. Some of the most frigid temperatures included 27 below zero at Rockford, 26 below zero at Chicago, and 25 below zero at Kankakee and Peoria. The Freezer Bowl was played between the Cincinnati Bengals and the San Deigo Chargers in bitterly cold wind chills. The air temperature was −9 °F, but the wind chill, factoring in a sustained wind of 27 mph, was −37 °F. 1987 - Bitter cold air invaded the Rocky Mountain Region, with subzero readings reported as far south as Gallop NM. Pocatello ID reported a record low reading of 14 degrees below zero. (National Weather Summary) 1988 - A storm in the northwestern U.S. produced wind gusts to 97 mph at Netarts OR, and up to two feet of snow in the mountains of Oregon. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - The first documented January tornado of record in Utah struck the south part of Sandy. Asphalt shingles were driven one half inch into a fence. (The Weather Channel) Clear skies, light winds, and up to 24 inches of snow cover, allowed the temperature to plunge to 45 degrees below zero at Roseau MN, and to -43 degrees at Warroad MN. The afternoon high at Grand Forks ND was 16 degrees below zero. (National Weather Summary) 1990 - Strong southerly winds ahead of a Pacific cold front helped temperatures in the central U.S. soar as much as 50 degrees during the day. A total of fifty cities in the central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, with afternoon highs in the 70s reported as far north as Nebraska and eastern Colorado. Highs of 53 at devils Lake ND, 76 at Grand Island NE, 73 at Lincoln NE, and 73 at North Platte NE, established records for the month of January. (National Weather Summary) 2001 - Storms dumped more than seven inches of rain on parts of southern California, including Los Angeles, where nearly four inches of rain fell. The heavy rains caused mudslides and road closures along much of California's central coast and up to three feet of snow was deposited in some coastal mountain areas. (NCDC)

29 / 12 off a low of 22. First 40s since Jan 3rd and near normal. Swing and a miss south Saturday. Near normal through the 13th then very cold 14 - 18th and dry ahead of what could be mix or mix to rain in the well advertised Jan 19 - 21 system. Beyond there to close the month overall colder than normal.

Gusting to 32 here JFK: 44 LGA: 41 EWR: 35

Cold period daily dep: Jan 4 EWR: 36 / 28 (-2) NYC: 33 / 28 (-4) LGA: 34 / 29 (-4) JFK: 37 / 30 (0 E) -------------------------------------------------- Jan 5: EWR: 36 / 28 (-2) NYC: 33 / 28 (-4) LGA: 34 / 28 (-4) JFK: 37 / 29 (-1) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 6: EWR: 31 / 22 (-6) NYC: 30 / 22 (-8) LGA: 33 / 23 (-7) JFK: 33 / 24 (-5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 7 EWR: 35 / 19 (-6) NYC: 33 / 19 (-8) LGA: 34 / 20 (-8) JFK: 36 / 20 (-6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jan 8 EWR: 32 / 22 (-6) NYC: 30 / 23 (-7) LGA: 31 / 24 (-7) JFK: 33 / 24 (-4) ---------------------------- May get to or above normal Fri (10)

Records: Highs: EWR: 67 (1998) NYC: 64 (2008) LGA: 66 (2008) JFK: 65 (2008) Lows: EWR: 1 (1968) NYC: -1 (1968) LGA: 1 (1968) JFK: 0 (1968) cold week Historical: 1875 - The temperature at Cheyenne, WY, dipped to an all-time record cold reading of -38 degrees. (The Weather Channel) 1880: A rapidly deepening low-pressure system produced powerful winds along the Pacific Northwest coast. While wind measurements were limited, there were widespread reports of wind damage. 1888 - Severe cold gripped much of the western U.S. At Portland OR the Columbia River was frozen for two weeks, and in southern California temperatures dipped below freezing in some of the citrus growing areas. (David Ludlum) 1976 - Lake effect snow squalls buried the town of Adams NY under 68 inches of snow. (David Ludlum) 1987 - A winter storm spread heavy snow from the Central Plains into the Great Lakes Region. Heavier totals included 9 inches at Sun City KS, 7 inches at Columbia MO, 11 inches at Terre Haute IN, and up to 10 inches in the southern suburbs of Chicago IL. (National Weather Summary) ( Storm Data) 1988 - A storm in the northeastern U.S. produced ten inches of snow at Boston MA, and 14 inches at Worcester MA. A winter storm in the northwestern U.S. produced a foot of snow in three hours at McCall ID. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Strong winds prevailed along the eastern slopes of the Rockies in Colorado. Winds gusted to 113 mph at the Air Force Academy near Colorado Springs, and reached 115 mph at Boulder. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - A third storm in four days hit the Pacific Northwest. Winds in Oregon gusted above 100 mph at Netarts and at Oceanside. Up to 8.16 inches of rain was reported around Seaside OR, and the total of 4.53 inches of rain at Astoria OR was a record for the date. Twelve cities in the western U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. The high of 70 degrees at Cedar City UT was a record for January. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2015: The halo picture below was taken by Texan Joshua Thomas in Red River, New Mexico.

24 / 6 off a low of 18 here. Winds whipping. Sat miss opens way to a mainly dry and overall colder next 7 days. Beyond there the next system to watch in the 19 - 21 period could yield the proverbial kick in the gut, with rain - wait out there to tell. Overnight data was a bit less intense with the cold in the post Jan 21 period, cold with the strongest north and west.

SW vis loop - fires evident in and near LA https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G16&sector=psw&band=GEOCOLOR&length=12&dim=1

Peak gusts so far (today) / looks a bit stronger Thursday LGA: 46 MPH EWR: 41 MPH JFK: 39 MPH

Gusts again near or above 40 MPG at the major airports

Once past Saturday, aside from possible light snow showers or flurries, the next system to watch is Jan 19 / 21 period. Untill then the 7 day precip forecast is dry north of VA. Can see what could be (have been) the storm offshore.

No warmup, let alone any sustained warmup on the horizon. These types of cold patterns seem to lock in or settle in (overall) for 45 - 60 days (overall) So with that guess if you count early Jan as the staring point, it would be later in towards mid/late Feb. Time will tell. Chilly into the deep south and Gulf states

Ill have to ding into these events (believe it was multiple event/day). More focussed in N-NJ and S-NE

the 22/23 - 30th are looking very cold on the latest guidance to add to those colder dept's.

more on the Jan 8, 1988(southern) NJ snowstorm https://www.upi.com/Archives/1988/01/08/A-winter-snowstorm-that-smothered-the-Plains-and-the/6715668680040/

Jan 4 EWR: 36 / 28 (-2) NYC: 33 / 28 (-4) LGA: 34 / 29 (-4) JFK: 37 / 30 (0 E) -------------------------------------------------- Jan 5: EWR: 36 / 28 (-2) NYC: 33 / 28 (-4) LGA: 34 / 28 (-4) JFK: 37 / 29 (-1) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 6: EWR: 31 / 22 (-6) NYC: 30 / 22 (-8) LGA: 33 / 23 (-7) JFK: 33 / 24 (-5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 7 EWR: 35 / 19 (-6) NYC: 33 / 19 (-8) LGA: 34 / 20 (-8) JFK: 36 / 20 (-6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Records: Highs: EWR: 70 (1998) NYC: 65 (1998) LGA: 64 (2008) JFK: 58 (1949) Lows: EWR: 3 (1970) NYC: 2 (1968) LGA: 3 (1968) JFK: 1 (1968) Historical: 1953 - A severe icestorm in the northeastern U.S. produced up to four inches of ice in Pennsylvania, and two to three inches in southeastern New York State. In southern New England the ice coated a layer of snow up to 20 inches deep. The storm resulted in 31 deaths and 2.5 million dollars damage. (David Ludlum) 1973 - A severe icestorm struck Atlanta GA. The storm paralyzed the city closing schools and businesses, and damage from the storm was estimated at 25 million dollars. One to four inches of ice coated northern Georgia leaving 300,000 persons without electricity for up to a week. Between 7 PM and 9 PM on the 7th, 2.27 inches (liquid content) of freezing rain, sleet and snow coated Atlanta, as the temperature hovered at 32 degrees. (7th-8th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1973: Georgia's worst ice storm since 1935 occurred from the 7th through the 8th. Freezing rain and sleet began during the early morning hours on Sunday the 7th and ended in most areas on Monday. Total damage was estimated at well over $25 million. The electric power companies suffered losses estimated at $5 million, and telephone companies had another $2 million in damages. Some schools were closed for more than a week. 1987 - A winter storm moving out of the Southern Rockies into the Central Plains Region produced 14 inches of snow at Red River NM, and 17 inches in the Wolf Creek ski area of Colorado. Wichita KS was blanketed with seven inches of snow. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - A winter storm spread heavy snow across the northeastern U.S., with up to ten inches reported in southern New Jersey. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Strong northwesterly winds and bitterly cold temperatures prevailed in the north central U.S. Winds in the Great Lakes Region gusted to 58 mph at Chicago IL, and reached 63 mph at Niagara Falls NY. Squalls in western New York State produced 20 inches of snow at Barnes Corners and Lowville. Snow squalls in Upper Michigan produced 26 inches around Keweenaw. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - High winds plagued the northwestern U.S., with the state of Oregon hardest hit. Two persons were killed in Oregon, and nine others were injured, and the high winds downed fifty-five million board feet of timber, valued at more than twenty million dollars. Winds gusted to 90 mph near Pinehurst ID, and wind gusts reached 96 mph at Stevenson WA. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2019: An unusual January tornado impacted Cortland, Ohio, during the mid-morning hours. The EF-1 tornado developed northeast of Champion Township in Trumbull County and moved east. The tornado brought down numerous trees and wires along the 4.5-mile path.

25 / 7 winds a bit calmer for now. Cold / windy highs near or sub 30 tomorrow lows teens. Precip stays focused south of DC this Saturday, light stuff this way. Cold overall the next 7 - 10 days with coldest days looking 9th, 15-16 so far. Perhaps stronger reinforcing cold rebuilding by the last week of the month, which can offer the next opportunity for some more meaningful snows and even colder departures solidifying a deep negative monthly departure - hope there is some snow to show for the cold.

GFS last 3 runs track shift SE each one