michsnowfreak

Every year they make a big deal out of the best conditions for the best color, and while some years are more brilliant (or longer) than others, I've never seen a color show disappoint. Simply does not happen in the upper midwest/Great Lakes/northeast with our variety of trees/colors.

Yes, good eye! Love their Halloween events, and their Holiday Nights at Christmas are my absolute favorite!

What a storm. This area did not have any 10"+ snowstorms in the 1940s or 1950s. It was really the most nickle and dime era of our record.

Went to a Halloween thing tonight. The colors are just spectacular.

Has it affected the brilliance of the Fall color?

1950-51 definitely not an analog, I was just noting it for the extraordinary warmth to open the month. Highs on Nov 1st were 81° in Detroit and 82° at Cleveland and judging by the lows in the 60s it was probably muggy. Then less than 4 weeks later the infamous snowstorm buried ohio and Pennsylvania (6.3" in Detroit).

Oh I'm 100% sold on a mild weather pattern. But the gfs extended isn't exactly gospel is all I'm saying. Last year it probably had us hit 105-110° a dozen tomes and our max was 90° lol.

I'd hold your horses on a 372 hr op run lol. There have been some impressive Nov warm spells before (2020, 1975). For most, November 1, 1950 remains the warmest November day on record, with many areas in the 80s. It cooled down big time by the 3rd however.

I expect a mild November. Not only is that typical of La Nina, but most other signs right now are pointing to at least the first half of November being mild. No worries from me. We've enough Halloween and early November snowfalls in recent years to know it has nothing to do with winter. Would be nice for a snowy Thanksgiving.

This is true. Plus the lake belts usually enjoy a huge bonanza of fun.

Ninas often are up and down anyway. Really not worried at all about getting so.e gold periods. The question is how many?

Tonights moon

Are you still liking above avg precip in the Lakes?

Yeah. It was probably in the upper 20s JUST west of DTW airport. These Fall mornings have some wild local swings.

True. Look at this morning. 26° Ann Arbor and 37° DTW.

And add in the above avg precip....pretty good look for the Lakes.

When driving through northern MI, no matter time of day but especially if it's dark out, you will really notice your car temperature reading go up and down up and down...

Not sure what the EPO was, however last year we had a snowy Halloween here and a cold start to November which certainly didnt portray the winter as a whole lol. Speaking of November, strictly from a snow perspective, I thought this was interesting. Detroit has not seen a below normal snowfall November since 2017. Going back to 2010, a total of 14 years, 10 of the 14 saw Novembers snowfall anamoly NOT correlate to the winter that followed.

It really tanks in those areas, wouldnt surprise me at all.

Not far off my overall thoughts for this area....I am REALLY interested in December only because of the history of snowy La Nina Decembers. It certainly isnt a slam dunk (there have been duds) but there is a definite correlation to above avg snowfall in December. It is the strongest snowfall correlation (+ or -) of any la nina month.

LMAO. You of ALL people accusing someone of cherry picking . After you just replied to yourself 3 times about a tweet where a lumberjack analyzed chicagos avg winter by posting soley 2023-24 data. Idk even know where you live, which is why I picked PIT and two well known cities in KY/TN to show how full of it you are. Although really my first mistake was replying to you. I need to do like the rest of the board and just let you continue to talk/reply to yourself.

I must have missed the part where I said it was record cold this morning. I merely said it was a frosty morning and i liked the way the frosted rooftops contrasted with the colorful trees. Actually, I pretty much stated that in my original post, noting the contrast of cold mornings differs from Fall to Spring. It was 26F in Ann Arbor. Im starting to think TCC is just an AI generated bot profile.

November snow is always exciting because it shows that the new winter is beginning. Theres an age old saying "the weather in November the winter will remember". This saying is just another wives tale, and there really is no correlation from November to the winter. Some years it matches, some years it doesnt. But I thought this was interesting...Detroit has not seen a below normal snowfall November since 2017. Going back to 2010, a total of 14 years, 10 of the 14 saw Novembers snowfall anamoly NOT correlate to the winter that followed.

Paging Illinois guy who doesnt like cold! A lumberjack has just tweeted that chicago has mild winters. This lumberjack insists on being objective, so his proof is a detailed analysis compiling tons of data spanning all the way from December 2023 to January 2024! If using the temperature stats of ONE incredibly mild winter doesnt tell you theres no cold in Chicago, then Idk what else to tell ya! Dress warm!

Pittsburgh’s 1991-2020 avg winter temp is 31.5F. 1950s avg winter temp in Louisville, KY was 37.4F & Nashvilles was 41.5F. In 150 years of record, Pittsburgh has had a grand total of ONE winter warmer than Nashville, TN’s AVERAGE 1950s winter (oh, and that was 1889-90). In 150 years of record, Pittsburgh has had a grand total of 5 winters warmer than Louisville KY’s AVERAGE 1950s winter (1889-90, 1931-32, 1879-80, 2023-24, 1881-82). Pittsburghs winters as recently as a few years ago would be the coldest on record for Nashville. I cant believe someone who is obsessed with squeezing any stat imaginable out of xmacis would make such a ridiculous statement.