michsnowfreak

Wow is that deepest in your memory? Post pics!

3.2" today after 1.6" yesterday. So two day total 4.8" (season to date 25.5"). DTW had 3.0" today with 2 day total 4.6" (season to date 24.6"). Had already prepared for a bust when going to bed, so enjoyed waking up to a beautiful winter scene. Snow depth is a heavy 7" and lots of large snowbanks everywhere. Definitely deep winter.

5-7" for eastern counties. This is on top of a solid snowpack and big snowbanks already around. For all the talk of what a shitty winter it's been for many, it's gonna look pretty damn deep winter here. I'm actually going to the UP mon-thu so my week will be full of snow lol. Lessened qpf aside, one thing I like is that deformation zones often can overperform and have high ratios.

We got 1.6" with round one. It's very heavy with mist and drizzle afterward. Snowpack is now a very heavy 4-5". DTX going warning for far eastern counties tonight and tmrw for 5-7". Had someone watching me when I was at the park earlier...

Awesome! Thank you!

Snowing very nicely here with round 1.

There was a Plains like and obviously forgotten blizzard warning Feb 11, 2003. 2" of snow and 60 mph winds.

Feb 2021 is the last time a 6"+ storm came on top of 6"+ snowcover

For sure. But most winter storms create that effect, with plenty of wind and drifting. Blizzard is 3+ consecutive hours with sustained winds of 35mph+ and visibility at or below a quarter mile. Many blizzard warnings that are issued do not technically verify, even though they feel like a blizzard.

I couldn't care less about a blizzard warning. I care about storm total snowfall lol

DTX has issued a Winter Weather Advisory for tmrw then a Winter Storm Watch for tmrw night/Sunday.

Definitely good with nickel/dime/winter...love it...but that doesnt mean i dont want a big one too!

There is some sparse data and journals and stuff that you can piece together what type of winter it was, but certainly not enough to get accurate or even semi-accurate precip/snow/temp data. I have studied it when I have spare time (often in the weather "off season" of summer lol) and have a document that I jot notes down, plus theres David Ludlum books that details things. But im nowhere NEAR done studying them. Honestly, it appears that the overall jist of winter over here (Detroit) was very similar to it is now, although a likely colder climate overall. Some winters were harsh and others were not. The 1830s to mid 1850s seemed to be dominated by mild, dry, "open" winters, though with exceptions of course (a HUGE exception being 1842-43). Then the mid 1850s to 1860s seemed to have a lot of harsh winters, tho again, with some exceptions. Notes of "easy" winters: 1846-47 (wheat crops destroyed due to open winter) 1847-48 (small quantity of snow fell, open winter; wheat damaged) 1849-50 (quite mild and snowless; only 1 day of sleighing as of Jan 28) 1852-53 (open winter, very dry) 1858-59 (crops likely damaged due to open winter) 1859-60 (wheat damaged somewhat due to open winter) 1860-61 (no ice on any river on any account, open winter) Notes of "severe" winters 1842-43 (most severe winter ever known; snowcover nov 17-apr 8) 1854-55 (open winter until deep snow late Jan, then it got the deepest since 1842-43) 1856-57 (houses suffered the rigors of the severe winter)

~4" depth here but should have more those weekend. Then I go to the U.P. next week so I'll be enjoying plenty of snow.

Thanks. DTW is at 19.8" so far. Avg for entire season is 41" (longterm) to 45" (current 30 year normals). This winter is unlike any we've seen in a long time. I found a few in the 1940s & 1960s similar. It's dominated by cold and dry and despite snowfall being below avg, there's been some presence of snow on the ground pretty much since New Year's (except for a dew days) but it's not yet reached 5" deep. Even late Nov to just before Christmas had many days of T-1" on the ground.

Technically the Jan 10/11 event saw 3.7" at DTW (3.9" here) edging out this event (3.6" DTW, 3.7" here). The difference being the Jan 10/11 was a a 2-3" event for most of metro Detroit with a small lollipop of 3.5-4" from downriver thru downtown. This event was a more widespread 3-4" event with the highest totals of 4-6" in the northeast suburbs. In a winter full of pennies and nickels, nice to have a few dimes.

You guys are having an awesome winter for snowpack in the thumb! When's the last time you had that much on the ground?

I'm here. Was just busy clearing snow, sleeping, working. Jealous of your 16" depth. I love the big piles but I snowblow anything 3"+ now. Gotta take it easy with my big driveway lol. Though I did shovel for my mom. Overall I'm pleased here. We had quite a late rally after midnight. Some massive flakes when I went to bed then surprised how much we had when I woke up considering it ended at like 3-4am. First i had big mixing worries (ended up with a glaze of ice and a few sleet pellets but was mostly snow) then I saw how the storm was busting for many to my west and the hires kept lowering and lowering qpf. Had 3.7" here. Season to date 20.5". DTW had 3.6", season to date 19.8". Looks like most of SE MI had 3-4" with 4-7" on the north east side/thumb.

Wow. When's the last time Toronto had the much snow on the ground? We had 15" in 2021 but haven't had 16" since 2015.

Kind of like some get so excited for (or frustrated for lack of) a Blizzard Warning. Hmmm, a blizzard warning for 50mph winds and 2-4" of snow or a Winter Storm Warning for 8-12" of snow with 30 mph gusts. Which shall I choose

I think this time DTX did a good job forecasting for SE MI. Right now going with 4-6" Oakland, 6-8" Macomb, 3-5" + icing Wayne/Monroe. Still so much model uncertainty with qpf and amount/extent of mixing. What started out as a higher than normal certainty for a storm when this was in the medium range last week has turned into lower than normal certainty for day of. Recent trends show that regardless of what happens during most of the event (re: amounts, amount of mixing on SE side) looks like a few hours of heavy snow, heaviest of the entire event, may end the storm in the early overnight hours. Buckle up and let it snow!

In the past I remember several storms that shouldve been warning and ended up advisory. When I was a kid it meant all the difference in the world. But now that i have access to models, forecast discussions, etc, i honestly dont care what the warning/advisory verbage is. I care about the results lol.

Wasn't Jan 12, 2024 a warning? If not I'd assume Mar 3 2023 was the last

This one has a bit of that "bowling ball" look which can really lead to some fun times.

Unfortunately this sub spreads from Iowa to eastern Ohio. Everyone will not be happy