michsnowfreak

What was his username? I don't seem to remember

2013 wasn't just a cold winter, it was a brutally cold winter. Combined with the heavy snow it was historic here. That's why when I see all the main analogs constantly mentioned here, even though some of them are respectable winters and not all mild, 2013-14 sticks out like a beautifully sore thumb.

He will likely lay low as he normally does during cold patterns.

Another good point. Perfect for all the ski resorts to get lots of snow made for an early base.

Good point. We have had some really dynamic storms in the milder winters that have produced postcard scenes but are heart attacks waiting to happen while shoveling and a waste of some snow qpf due to low ratios. A clipper pattern early in the season with arctic air and warm lakes is not a bad idea.

I was just coming to post....weeklies continue to get colder.

Very impressive, but they didnt get that in a single event last year? I guess there really is quite the difference between ORD and lakeshore.

how much did downtown get?

Yeah woke up to a dusting then had mood flakes all morning. Nice to see.

I'll try and find a news article.

2018-19 wasnt all bad, just a forgettable snow season here. We also had 3 ice storms and the insane arctic blast in late January. I still remember walking in the park in the bitter cold. The snow was so crunchy and the trees would not stop that eerie creak sound you only get when its SOO cold. I think for most the clear winner in the post-2015 era is 2017-18. I also think many of us would kill to do a repeat of 2007-2015 or so.

It really looks like a great pattern. Per OHWeather, it looks panhandle hook/cutter-ish initially the end of November and looks more clipper-ish by a week into December. First dusting of snow this morning, my sister told me my nephews were so excited. I never turn down a flake of snow, whether its January of April, but theres nothing like the excitement/anticipation at the beginning of the snow season/winter. And its even better when the weather cooperates during the holidays.

2018-19 and 2019-20 are actually good examples for when I mention how I worry more about pattern than temps. Certainly doesnt always or even usually work out like that, but it happens. 2018-19: DJF temp 28.9F, snowfall 31.3" 2019-20: DJF temp 32.6F, snowfall 43.7" Other than last winter, 2018-19 was the only real dud snow season in this post-2015 mild era, yet the winter itself was barely warmer than avg, certainly an average-ish temp winter overall. But 2019-20, an average snow season, was the 11th warmest winter on record.

jealous of the heavy snow in chicago and milwaukee, even though itll melt by nightfall probably. My nephews were so excited at the first dusting of snow this morning. Whether you like the long-haul of winter or get tired of it by Jan, unless you hate all things winter, theres nothing like the excitement when the snow season is just beginning.

Time to get the (snow)ball rolling! Per @OHweather Well I'd roll these dice if this pattern evolution is close to correct. It would be reasonably cold with snow opportunities for most of the sub-forum from late next week through probably the first 10-15 days of December. The pattern looks panhandle hook/cutter-ish initially the end of November and looks more clipper-ish by a week into December.

Never gets old waking up to the first snow of the season. 0.1"

I'd be interested to see stats on its performance the past 5-8 years or so. Seems it's definitely less accurate than it used to be, even if it still is the best model of the group.

The Euro used to be called king. For several years that has not been the case. I do not at all expect models to ever be perfect. But how can models get worse at technology advances?

Ah ok. Trended away from here lol. But it is nice to see RELATIVE consistency with the models days out. Hopefully a sign!

Ive read accounts. It was not a large snowstorm by any means, but a rapid temp drop, rain turned to snow and temps got deadly cold. The artic blast was very severe in an otherwise tame winter.

Just curious, what trend are you alluding to? That the models dont lose a system?

Wow my memory is like steel when it comes to actual past weather, but like mush when it comes to what models predicted lol. I honestly do not remember cold being forecast last December. Usually there are several different routes we can take for a respectable winter if it won't be great, but strong ninos are the ONE and only scenario i go into winter cringing.

Lol I was joking as he is a known troll. He will disappear until warmth surfaces and then he will be back. I may occasionally comment on snowman or bluewave for their warm bias, but at least they add to the discussion. Huge difference between having a warm (or cold) bias and just being a troll.

I can't stand hype either way, but it's no different than some of the Twitter stuff you share of the opposite extreme. Though honestly anyone who uses Twitter as their weather source are just like the people who use their phones AI forecast graphics as their main weather source. They'll forget once it changes the next day.

Idk qgomega promised a RECORD WARM start to December just a few days ago.