Ummm, I was replying to canucks comment and agreeing, and what I meant was that some people (esp snow weenies) here, IN MICHIGAN, have acted like we have had no winter, when in reality now between 20 and 30" has fallen in most of southeast MI this season, albeit in a very frustrating pattern for the snowcover lovers like myself. That reference did not mean "some people in this subforum". And yes, I cant recall a single clipper. Our season to date measurable snow wise, we have had 2 warning snowstorms and some LES squalls and frontal snows. I much prefer clippers, cold, and white, but if this is what it is, bring on the next warning snow.