michsnowfreak

With the moderating Great Lakes, Detroit has more winters than Chicago where temperatures do not fall below 0. Obviously more often than not they do fall below 0, but I have to check how many winters do not (but I know it's more than 10%). Very few subzero readings in the 1950s, easily the decade with the least. What is interesting to me is that the lowest temperature so far this season was 7ﾟon November 13th. I don't think there has ever been a season where the coldest temperature was in November (granted that was not only a record low but record earliest date for a single digit low). On another note since the last few days were the 1st fluff fest of this season, I am reminded how quickly fluffy snow compacts/settles/melts compared to wetter snow. Nothing more gorgeous than the sparkles a fluffy snow, but it's so annoying to see how a temperature of 32ﾟ can zap it down so quick.

We picked up 0.9" of fluff over night, and I mean airy fluff, a very low water content. We missed the heavier stuff to the North. Once it stops snowing that stuff settles very quickly, I suppose that's what you call a stat padder, though it does keep the snow cover nice and white lol

Ill take the 00z nam.

Certainly not the deepest snow we have the season, but its a winter wonderland nonetheless. Went out for a walk today to enjoy the return of white. Temperatures have spiked into the low to mid thirties but should plummet soon with perhaps squalls

After the 2.0" of sugar we ended up with 1.3" of deformation fluff. So event total in my backyard was 3.3" of snow on 0.26" water. Still enough for the 3rd largest snow event of the year, but quite a ways away from number 1 & 2. Sun has come out and it's compacting in spots but it's nice to see all the white return.

Probably different dynamics this far North, but I certainly agree with you. It was pure sugar here despite temperatures in the mid 20s. I had 2.0" of snow on 0.20" of liquid equivalent. ASOS often slightly under catches snow water equivalent for what it's worth

The snow swath was very underwhelming, but that was the 1st measurable snowfall of the season and Oklahoma City lol it's been bad here but I would not call it bottom shelf bad. Snowfall is running not far from average here, and is way below average just to our South. With these HORRIBLE models I refuse to say anything to jinx it, but you do the math, if some of the snow this week pans out, we could actually be in positive snow departure territory.

Haha i hope it isnt coming. As jonger said, just a bad pattern this year, it happens. We've "lucked" out since we are far the North, but it's been a bad pattern.

Ended up with 2.0" of 10-1 ratio sugary, sandy snow here, no fluff factor at all. DTW 1.9". Seems like most of Southeast Michigan got between 1-2". Rogue called it about the needles cutting into totals i.e. ratios. Now it looks like they deformation should hit this afternoon and tonight, if there's more fluff factor as there often is in deformation we will get more snow tonight than we did last night. Another A+ job by the models . Looks pretty out though.

Snow started with a Bang here, probably nearing an inch and roads in very back condition. Temperatures fell from 29 to 25ﾟ once the snow started

Extended continues to look active. Thinking several more snow systems in the offing, the more north one is the better.

I highly doubt 6", but it would be incredible to have a 3rd 6"+ storm in this winter.

Qpf definitely tone down from yesterday here, but looks like a solid 3 to 4" of powder, I will gladly take it. The 9" snowstorm November 11 was somewhat powdery however the post storm blowing snow had the unusual added element of blowing leaves lol. The 7" snowstorm Jan 18th was concrete. The other snows ranged from slush to powder but were minor fares of the dusting to inch or just over an inch variety. I will be VERY happy to shovel 3 or 4" of pure powder!!!

DTX almost always goes conservative, most severe Burns are under forecasting snowfall. I was shocked when they nailed the last storm.

Lol @ the model circus. The 12ZGEFS is absolutely perfect for here, bullseye right over Detroit. I just hope there are no further shifts South, the euro as it is already too far South although we would still get several inches of snow.

Can i lock im gefs ensemble mean lol?

While i do agree this is likely too amped, morels are not always overdone on qpf as they were in the past.

The ensembles are southeast of Op. Wonder what 6z euro shows?

Whats funny, is that outside of the record or near record early green up in 2012 (no actual records exist to compare, but id say its up there with 1945 as earliest on record), most years since have had a late greenup. Its actually to the point where it almost seems like the color season and spring greenup have each shifted a bit later, maybe like a week

Fair point, esp regarding temps (avg snowfall is 6.9"). But i think of april as the bigger transition month. April is a month that most years has both days with snowflakes and days where it feels like summer. But in terms of looks, outside of 2012, march landscape definitely looks more like winter than spring.

March is overwhelmingly a winter month here.

When is this thing sampled?

Id say its pretty even split of trends going our way or against us. What kills me is that in literally one day, I have went from barely getting scraped by snow with a whiff southeast, to having the best snow go Northwest and getting in on sleet. I'm the first one to tell everybody not to take model runs at face value, and look at trends and ensembles, but even that is turning into a circus!

Here there are lots of piles in parking lots and some elsewhere, but no patchy snow survived.

Thanks for clarifying. I didnt see that post.