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Thats a very fair point and why heightening awareness is all we can really do (unless y'all want the GPS to control your speed ). Common sense still is the biggest factor in this IMO.

Nah...he likes to troll me..we all see it. My posts regarding the weather and where we are going....while negative in tone...are nothing more than being 100% realistic. Has March been cold...yeah... Has it been anomalously cold...not IMO...but likely below normal. Has it snowed much down here......natsomuch and in my locale....hardly a flake. I'm sure a large portion of us here could say that outside of some snowshowers/squalls, its been much the same.....backsided and boring. THAT's the point I've been trying to drive home, as most of us snow hounds want snow with stickage. He suggested March should definitely be considered a winter month. Totally agree, and always have, but that doesn't have a 1 to 1 correlation w/ snow and in this pattern, not enough has changed (even as the wavelengths started to, and can still be something that factors in as we approach true spring). truth is %'s drop like a stone from early March to where we are now. Showing a 200+hr snowmap when almost in April....ok....you do you, but for sake of argument...doesn't hold much water...or snow. Give me more than that....and I'll be glad to listen/chat it up. My feeling is and has been that we've just not had the timing right this year, and I feel that will continue into the backside of whatever winter we have left here. You, I and others have been in agreement wrt to this. I've never discounted the normal snowbelts as being able to do well into March. They always have and always will, but bye and large that's not really most of us. MAG, 2001, Pawatch and whomever else is NW of us are the envy of the forum snowwise for where they live and in this pattern, can cash in while we watch. Happy for them. It's a weather discussion board, and I take the time to throw reasoning (right or wrong) as to why I feel the way I do, but don't appreciate being trolled w/out data/reasoning as to why I'm wrong. I make no claims to be an expert, but I come here to chat up weather w/ good folks.... Rant over....good luck to all that get your 7 snowflakes, before it turns to rain. I'm happy for those that enjoy it.

At the end of the day....common sense still plays a large part of how we roll, and as of now, no computer can replace that. Down the road....maybe so. Hopefully not in my lifetime. I dont want to be prrogrammed...and subject to malware in my brain.

lol noone here said that.... but keep adding up your 300 hr snow maps.

I guess the part that is a disconnect w/ radar being touted as the problem....is that bye and large, its mostly weather weenies like us that would be hyperfocused on a radar screen in search of snow. Moreover, even if it existed, it might help fill small donut holes, but when CTP issued a snow squall warning and it pops on screen, that's really all they can do is heighten awareness. It still falls on said individual to heed warning. Most of us have seen the videos in the last couple days, and when its a white out like we saw....that falls on the driver to slow down. Again, I've been guilty of it, so I'm not taking ANY high road here, but from what I saw, many of those folks were really cruisin along IMO.

oh and partly cloudy w/ peeks of sun and 28 on ride in this AM.

Well this is a loaded one for sure. You can blame a myriad of things...weather, society for the push push, radar...whatevs, but at the end of the day, the person behind the wheel takes much of it (I'm guilty as charged btw). IMO with todays technology, with many vehicles having NAV/GPS, I'd think it'd be easy for all vehicles to require one, and when you are going through areas like this stretch which is notoriously dangerous, they could set speed restrictions between mile markers x and y....and when you pass through (just like turnpike toll booths), your car restricts to set speed parameters. That was easy... at the end of the day, I prefer it up to us, but I'd think something like above isnt too far fetched... Pics that I saw were horrible and thoughts and prayers go out to all involved.

Sorry man. I know you wanted it, but pattern is a rinse and repeat bud... Verbatim...nooner GFS says 7-10 days shows 3 poss weather events (all rain) until the usual cold front sweeps in to freeze your patunas off while its possibly snowing post frontal onions (if your in the lucky NW spots). Same basic pattern. Gut says, that once NAO/AO start heading north...so the boundary will go once again. Our recent cold is a byproduct of the pattern we've been in much of this season. By April, its getting real tough thermally. With that in mind, below does not inspire confidence for snow hounds in April down here...or in Texas. If below is wrong, then I'll use the onions for my crow stew. Check the deviation/mean out. This is not gospel by any means, but has served me pretty well with my guesses over the years (I'm no forecaster so would never speak as such). Couple either of these w/ a neutral PNA and we get normalish weather...not anomalous IMO. Hey this is a weather board, so I'm throwin my thoughts out there. K? I'm hangin out till first week of April to see how things pan out, then I'll likely be headin for the cave this year. Its almost HH so I'm checkin out and headin for a beer at home...cheers.

sorry man. but after this brief dip w/ AO/NAO, they both head back for neurtralish territory, and that doesnt bode well for easters and snow (see what i did there). Of course a perfectly timed/placed event is a remote chance, but as we turn the calendar, I'd bet we wave bye bye to snow season. Its all good.

that sounds nasty.....just sayin.

Yeah thats normalish and will be nice (don't tell voyager I said that-dont wanna lose my snowhound status). just was out to pick up lunch and while chilly, you can feel the warmth comin...was nice. Did i just type that... WTH is wrong w/ me? Note to self....put Harley in garage when you want cold ass temps. If only the snow coulda happened-pattern was basically a reapeat of mid winter and antecedent cold just never holds as next storm starts a cuttin....meh. Happy Spring all....enjoy.

Finally some flakes here but just a couple. No squalls here yet

Totally agree bud. Unless you've been in a situ like this, I'd suggest taking a pause on the instant reactions to the instant reactions. I also saw the other video and heard cars continuing to smash up as he was walking away. Surreal, horrific... and just tragic. Guy was totally in a state of utter disbelief.... Hope yall r enjoying the snow...I've not seen a flake since yesterday. Enjoy gang.

Hint...... Vegetarian....akin to rabbit food eater. I ALWAYS eat the bacon....especially on salad. (I saw your veggie post a long while back) and was just being a smartass....I know....shocker.

yeah its rather showery here as well, but when its showerin, its putting it down. Much needed and fine w/ that.

ditto. 80 percent of us are closer to the middle than the extremist on either side. You are nowhere near alone pal. Born n raised conservative that cant shake it outta my bones, but I've got plenty of progressive in me that knows that times are not what they once were and am willing to consider both sides. I dont know what you went through, but your plenty safe n welcome here. and you keep eatin all that rabbit food....I'll like my proteins charbroiled with a side of rabbit food To the ones that were "grilln" ya for whatevs....they are likely the Oz's in the group (see pic above). 1 on 1 they dont stand a chance. They are like a pack of hyenas...alone they are nothing. PS....I've learned more from my liberal friends/clients than I ever will from those that are like minded....but my like minded friends keep me grounded in my convictions. If you ever get back to the area, I'd be glad to meet at the Frogtown for a brew....my treat. Look for the guy on the Harley withOUT confederate flags.

1030 obs.... gullywasher in full effect here. my grass seed that I put out thanks mo nature in advance.

lol....not surprised and dont give a shiit. I wont look anyways.... They are all guilty as charged and are hypocrites if that's the case, but im guessing they'll selectively not copy this post. I've always thought that of you, and would still be the first to buy you a beer at a bar. You and I would have great conversation and likely learn lots about "the other side". :). You do you pal.

meh....who cares. I didnt know what/where yall were talking bout as I've said numerous times, I stay in here cause I got tired of all of the MA bullsh1t. I'm w/ voyager, I dont care if your lib/trumper. That has no business here, and while I know many in our forum sit on the other side, it matters not to me. We need that for balance, as long as its done w/ mutual respect. And that's where the diff is w/ trix and the other trolls. Internet warriors scare me none in the least. They collectively puff their chests and team up cause it makes them feel big. Here's what I think of anyone like that.....

Sorry pal. I didnt mean to piss in anyone's cheerios yesterday, but what you just stated is spot on. It's really late in the game and while some tellies are suggesting more favorable looks....it's still really late in the game. As this winter has rarely had good looks, it's going to be even more difficult to shoehorn our way into a nice event as we approach EOM and early April Yep, it sure can happen but odds (especially this year IMO) are really slim. On the bright side, there is surely a window of opp that something might pop as the east looks coolish during this period.

did you guys look at where the 0z was at same timestamp? had lp over southern Ililnois. Just a wee bit bouncy eh? I'd like to see one more, and I guess enough is showing up on the models to keep an eye on it. AO and NAO are now progged to be slightly - which opens the door for this EOM chance at something. Only reminder is that for an event in this timeframe, we REALLY need anomalous departures to get anything of substance down at this latitude. Winter is retreating steadily N, and snow w/ wet grass....meh...but I'll be glad to watch it one more time as the pos takaway is that its only 7 months till we can see it again. I hope you remaining snowhounds can get one more good one here for us. Sleds will be put to bed this weekend, and Harley is now back in garage. I guess I'm just over this dud of a winter.

largely fits the pattern right now. AO/NAO raging + tell the tale IMO and has they head down twds the eom, a +1 deviation for both will make it tough outside of a perfectly timed event (and I think we just used that chip up this weekend).

Not very thick IMO....

Morning gang. Closing in on 6” here in houtzdale. Enjoy the storm. Headed for pheasants.

what you dont get in qpf....you make up for in ratios...and your's will be easier to clean up.