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For me....a necessary evil of sorts lol. If one truly loves weather, there is serious talent/knowledge in that forum...let alone a handful of active Mets. Some of "our" crew have left here and now post primarily because of the level of convo/info to be had down there. You get a diverse blend of information and knowledge sharing. Believe me when i say that I'd love to just stay here, because while we may not have quite the depth of knowledge....we are the coolest. Dont tell them i said that....its hard enough for me to "keep my place" down there. Good Lord they are a territorial bunch.

Waited for the dreaded changeover that never came. It WAS a true Christmas miracle. Getting stuck w/ snowmobiles in tow while en route to parents.....not a miracle. I'd give body parts for a redux.

well stated Daxx Something to think about when we talk December snow/cold, and why many of us true weather weenies don't get jacked up about "missing" December:. The Arctic (TPV) is really still in formative stages, let alone establishing residency in various regions. Thats why its still a bit early to be looking for good longwave/stable cold/snow in this timeframe. To Daxx's point, once into Jan, the cold is established and becomes more stable and readily available. We hope for disruptions/SSW events to send lobes, or the whole mother load of cold our way to get into fun n games snowwise. We then rely on the base state (ENSO/AO/EPO/PNA and the ever illusive NAO regions to help w/ getting/keeping it close/here for when storms are looming. When March comes around, while lower latitudes start thinking spring, there is still plenty of stale cold avail for fun n games. THAT is why mid jan thru mid march is the best period for snow. Theres no dispute. To that point, there is also no emotion involved. Is just plain climo. I just as much as any, want a white Christmas, but know that its really a 15% chance at best. Records support it and are not disputable. Separating emotions from facts can be difficult...but setting realistic expectations keeps you out of heartbreak hotel. No matter, I still look forward to the holidays like no other time of year.....snow or no.

thx wife tried it w/ her hips (pre surgery). I may see if she still has any "stash"

My "older" bones, cant take it like they used to. I've got some kinda arthritic deal starting. Time for thicker wardrobe

I had 18. W just a wee bit of snow remnants from last nights squall action.

And now they do it in the banter thread, and its modded by mappy/uswaf/h2o/chill. Post it in the discussion thread...go ahead. It'll be deleted, or moved to banter as soon as someone posts it. They too have asked to keep it weather related out of respect for those that really put time into their profession/hobby. Lets be crystal clear, I'm all about fun banter. It does make our forum a bit more lighthearted and fun, and for that, I'm as guilty as the next poster. For those of us that really enjoy the search of snow/cold, and try to discuss only to be followed up w/ "aint happening"...."its over"....."i hate driving in it" kinda posts without adding any substance/validation just makes some folks wanna leave. We've heard them 100's and 100's of times, and we know....we get it. I left late last year for that very reason. LIke i suggested, go back a bunch of years and you'll see I'm not alone in my thinking. By and large, I leave in the warm months out of respect for those that enjoy heat and humidity and storms (even tho ya'll are a sick bunch ). Winter lovers have 3-4 months to play, and then warmies get the rest. I'm done w/ this....this isn't MY board, its all of ours, and I wasn't looking for an argument...I was merely asking for a little forum decorum. I'll continue to sift through the rubble or leave when it looks bad. Nut.

that takes "slow outta the gate" to a whole new level. Thanks for the chuckle.

This is the not so cool part of winter. Hope it wasnt as bad as it sounds (injury wise).

we got largely skipped from the squall line. Broke up right before entering Lanco. Couple flurries/snow showers but not much.

My buds call me Super Doppler Erik.

I work in Etown. I’ve used intellicast for many years. Seems to be pretty accurate to me. https://www.wunderground.com/maps/radar/current

Looking at radar, if that band that is headed SE holds together, the turnpike may be a bit sketchy in the next hour or so. KX enjoy buddy. You are long overdue. Looks like you keep it till the weekend.

Backdoor started showing up early Monday night and yesterday.

Mood flakes flying in Etown. Nice to see LE making it over the hills.

Gotta say that looking at the evolution for weekend NON event, just makes one scratch head as we have storms that can cut through the nations midsection like noones business, and for this upcoming weekend, we get a storm UNDER us, and it can climb whatsoever. If ones looks at 500's it is just mindboggling....even if there isnt enough cold air in place.

been a LONNGGGG time pal. It IS my fav. Classic A that takes a big drink outta da gulf and rides/drinks the whole way up the coast and bombs away off Hatteras.... only to drink so much that it stalls at the OCMD and throws up white stuff all over us. There you have my wish list for this year (weather wise anyway). Can you hook me up?

FYP

Believe it or not, I'm one of the most fun guys i know . I really am.... I'm not kidding........... Lol's For most here, its all about having fun and learning....especially w/ something that is a hobby/passion, but when the debbies pile on, drop pooh pooh bombs, and blow the joint up with little else to offer because they read it somewhere else or just dont feel it....Thats the grind. Not being a jerk, but its easy to see. Several red taggers/good posters have left because of it. For those that have been around for a while, think about it. For the casual crew, its all good, as they still add something when they can or feel comfy trying..at least they add to the discussion part. Real truth is we dont live in a big snow area, and we often scratch n scrape to get climo. We also have anomalously good and bad years. It happens. Get over it, and if you dont like whats going on, take a break. Take up poetry...basketweaving....whatevs....(no intent to offend any that partake in said hobbies). Some of us are gonna keep sniffin out the next opp in hopes of snow.

and even if they don't have much strength, that still doesn't mean we are screwed. Timing just becomes even more critical until something takes the wheel and starts driving the snow mobile. Surely thats not optimal, and lowers the chance at scoring, but it surely doesnt mean shutout either. As you know NAO typically has a short lead indicator, so as we head back to neutral we can easily go back negative, and I know a couple WAY long rangers think a reemergence of Nov is a possibility. IF we can time that with PNA or EPO, we could be liking the direction we are headed. A big IF i know.

yep, typically low solar and period beyond can be good for lovers of winter. I read that we were at the min, but last week FRD or someone, suggested we are still trending lower. Hoping we can add it to our weather bag of tricks. Just like SSW

Can i share this in my home subforum? Its as though someone tilted the board and most fell off the ledge already. Man its gonna be a LONG winter. This really is acceptable if verified. Looks like we see saw (if one believes ENS guidance), but then potentially the road to the promise land may be looking better.

Actually he and Chill were sniffing out the not so good look. Glad to see Bob already sniffing the way out. I know next week looks less than fun, but looking at the tellies, I just dont feel it will be horrible. Will it snow, maybe not, but the only thing worse than no snow, is warm and no snow. I think that by this weekend, and if one believes tellies/MJO, that the light in the distance may be getting brighter....or maybe it is just the longer daylight that starts this weekend.

Santa's driving summary for today. (I'm in sales and am old school, and like to see my big accounts to say thank you w/ chocolates and fun stuff.) Santa's route: Etown (icy) Middletown(a little less icy) Mechanicsburg (not much of anything) Shippensburg (see pics from ealier - todays winner for my route) Duncannon - mountaintop icing Selinsgrove - mountaintop icing Lewisburg - ditto Danville - a little icier Bloomsburg - icy then through Centralia to Minersville and down 81 to just above Pine Grove (icy and snowing lightly once on 81) Pine grove to Myerstown (rather icy on trees) Home - natsomuchofanything 294 miles and I'd say I78-81 corridor did the best.

Great points. Just reminding some that this IS a forum to discuss weather, both good and bad. Its rather loose in here, but if you just want to be a Debbie, i'm asking you to start a banter thread for it. If you want to Debbie AND say why for all to discuss, then keep it here. Thats what we are here for. Usually for every argument, there is often a counter argument. Thats what makes the forum click and what the thread is for. Take last night, I thought based on pattern/models, and knowing the tendencies therein, the mesos would be correcting colder (and they did, but not enough), and for that I went on a limb and thought more frozen would verify (part 2). It did in some areas. Others, notsomuch. I come here to discuss, and can be wrong just like the next guy, but at least I offer my reasons for my stance....right or wrong. Anyone coming in here w/ definitive tones, should know better with this sport. Rant over, but winter is not....technically its yet to start. Into next week looks to warm w/ ridging building in the east, and trough dumping into SW. Beyond Christmas (if one believes LR guidance signs of that breaking down start to emerge). For those that think LR guidance is bunk, please feel free to share whatever else you have to offer. MJO is low amplitude NAO/AO still somewhat negative, albeit less than current. PNA headed towards neutral from negative. Points I'm making is that no indicie is the sole driving faction for the good or bad to where we are headed. Furthermore, the base state is notably different than last year, so to say "here we go again" might end up right, but for the wrong reasons. I'm not hear to be snarky w/ ANYone, and consider us a pretty cool group, but I come here to discuss, learn, and have some fun along the way. I hope that most of you know my style and appreciate my stance. Please start a banter thread. EVERY other forum/subforum has them. Thanks Non Management Weather Weenie