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and dont forget that for where its melting on the roads, there's this thingy called brine...

Agreed pal. I'm guessing the numbers guys just look at the odds and say....meh. IF we keep the PNA + that could at least offset less than stellar looks from other tellies like NAO etc.

yeah, we seem to overachieve wrt how well we warm, so I'd not want to wager any bets w/ you. While 850s start to warm about a week from now, 2m temps hold on a little longer to respond. The realist in me says that I'll take a week of white and be fine w/ a relax. I'd think many here would as well.

and lastly, if one looks at 2m temps (looking at GFS), it looks like we stay in 30's through mid next week. If you add 5 on, low 40's will feel nice for a few days, till we ease back into colder stuff into last week of Jan. As long as we keep the torches at bay...alright by me. Could get close a couple days, but it happens.

Yeah after we Jan thaw, it looks decent as of now. Lets hope momentum builds for a quick relax/reload.

I'm glad YOU brought it up, as when I've done it over they years, I get plenty of flack for discussing such weather voodo. Hoping your comments are better than mine. That lag time could work well w/ other tellies as we turn the page into our best month for snow.

Quarryville plain clothes snowmobile crowd approves of this map. All i got for ya...

CMC is no longer a GEM to look at as it depicts my last statement. Spacing too far and qpf responds. Snow maps went from 7-10 to 3" in last 3 runs. As I've always stated, looking for consensus/continuity, and not best snow map. Consensus is this looks too strung out. Just hoping we hang onto the 1-3" and that'll be a win.

Spacing/separation of NS/SS really has turned this into a strung out mess. Hoping that coastal doesnt rob us easters of more qpf than already being shown. Just somethin I'm "worrying" about...

actually i think most of us beggars are fine w/ these kinda events. Not stirring pot, but after the horrid winters of late coupled w/ the fact that historical odds are highly against 10-12" events....many know this, but of course, are always in search of it. 2-3" is a nice event to me, and if we can get that Friday, sign me up.

Great point. QPF maps are a safer bet when there are no precip issues. Easy to do the math w/ standard 10:1 ratios and use that as a baseline.

I wish this wasnt true, as I prefer TT over Pivotal (ease of use), but it has been discussed before, and there is more truth to this than not. algorithms are often a tad off w/ TT snow maps....and likely one of many reasons that @Itstrainingtimeloves to see them so much

Thats what I'm focusing on, no matter what map shows what. Snow on snow is a win. Overnighters went to the look of the GFS concern that i posted yesterday. SS stays out in front and doesnt play w/ the NS, so its more strung out, and light mood kinda snows here. RGEM still is close enough and one we still wanna hug, but I'd also say that NAM'rs didnt look horrible at all. I was thinking 3-6 early call, and think that Blizz's 2-4 is better (4" is really pushin it but I'm not sure most would care if they got 3" instead of 4. Only us nerds fight over that stuff.

I saw a 2 between rothsville and lititz, and by the time I got my phone out to take a pic to share w/ y'all (yes while driving) it went up to 5. I didnt feel like turning around to search for the cold spot. On average 7-10 was seen on car thermo most of way into Etown. Just a beautiful winter morning.

GFS has SS energy waayyyy out in front of NS meet n greet, which is muckin up a better event IMO. RGEM has enough interaction to enhance qpf round here, and snow maps above show it. Not saying its right, but its the one to hug for now.

I posted a few snippets about nooners and what is showing. Whatchu thinkin for the Friday deal? Looks like we get some phasing of NS, but not really a big trifecta of sorts. Trough rather progressive so once again, while a good event, upside to me would be coastal slowing down and hangin back a bit, but not really sure how much further amplification there could be. RGEM was nicest to look at, ICON wasnt too shabby, and GFS a little strung out but workable. I'd think a 3-6 kinda deal isnt far fetched??

back to pixie dust here, but its coming down pretty well. Def windage increase as well.

Yep, pattern has been showing for some time, so bombs away..., and also think Bubbler pointed out a triple phase option for this weekend a few days back, and that has some merit as of 12zs. Would be awesome to see if we can pull it off. Many good storms come when NAO is heading +... and looky what we have here.

Back to nice snow in ETOWN. AND....FWIW, after we survive next weeks warmup, there is a 300hr storm that Bubbler would approve of on GFS. Im just looking for the light at the end of the warm tunnel. That all. Happy snow day gang!

GFS has the meet n great but SS sneaks out the front door and doesnt wanna party. Still a nice event, but missed on the upside.

RGEM verbatim is a long duration multi faceted event and would make my winter....in mid January.

Yes, it does bud. Go peek at RGEM. REALLY like the trends on the nooners. All have NS/SS meet n greet in midwest, and party gets goin on over all of us shortly after.

Great. Can we replace my pixie dust w/ dendrites....please and thanx?

Then hrs later, meets up w/ coastal. Lots of moving parts, but this could be decent as depicted.

and nooners start w/ NAM and ICON showing a nice event for Friday. ICON is nice as it looks to have somewhat of a phasing of NS and SS energy. Anxious to see what the rest do. Here is the panel where the 2 meet. couple panels later, a nice SLP w/ good moisture.