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Dont mock it till ya try it..... Been there...did that. Its just not in the cards for us down here. As stated, norther westers can score on these, so if I lived up or over there...I'd be fine w/ backend snow and a couple days of white after. I guess I'm just pooh poohin the look in my/our hoods. I'm not trying to pooh pooh any chatter about how we may get snow, as sneaky surprises (like upcoming event) are capable of doing just that, but its a needle in haystack look for the next week. AO looks to be headed back notably neg and PNA + after mid month, and that helps IF other indies arent crap. Need to see what that new look is next week IMO.

Truth told, its been a while since we've had rain to snow scenario. The good ol days of watching every raindrop and waiting for the rain to turn to white rain, then the flip. I'm rooting for this, but we've done enough of these (especially down here) to know how this typically pans out (post empty pan pics at will). Elevation/norther/westers...many of us are living vicariously through you on this one. Happy to see the post frontal cold shots, to keep things from being totally sh!t, but until we find a way to get troughing back in the east, or at least zonal boundary far enough S to keep us in the mix, I'm keeping chips in pocket for a while. Not much on ENS guidance, as its a rather progressive look, and one of PAC air origin/dominance. Maybe next week we start to see a better look. Hope so.

lets get the soil water content up so when the deep freeze comes, its an insulated frozen tundra for maximum pack retention.

BTW, white rain at ski sawmill. https://skisawmill.com/webcam/

I never turn him or England Dan and John Ford Coley off. Ever...

Agreed. Its part of the game and to that end, the unpredicability is what makes many of us watch. Now if you are betting half of your lifes savings every weekend...then maybe I'd want it watered down to best coaching/talent. I've no interest in that, so let em play. Thats my sports rambling for the month....

Yeah it was nice for the northers to have a couple weeks of winter. wash - in process rinse - also in process repeat.....hope so. (prob later this month) - or maybe a festivus miracle. Whatever falls likely wont be OTG for more than a couple days, but I'd be happy to see that down here.

NAO heading + makes me skeptical of holding any colder scenarios (mind you mid week has enough neut/neg tilt to pull down backside fun for some), but this is where my heads been since I punted the next couple weeks last week. As always northers/westers can get backside action, but down here our goose is sorta cooked. If we can get MJO outta 6 and into 7, and couple that w/ -AO, we might have a better chance at scoring. +PNA w/ +NAO just says zonal pac origin air to me, but if AO can get notably -, that could put us in or close enough to the baroclinic zone to keep eyes on stuff.

Queues up Bryan Adams..."cuts like a knife". As suggested earlier, the reshuffle is gonna need to reshuffle before we can get something more than backdoor cold fronts....until then...meh. A tidbit of hope is that I was parsing over the Enso thread earlier to see how things have evolved in the last few weeks, and I'm not at all terrified by what I read. But with MJO heading into maritime phases, neg AO w/ slightly +pna still has a zonalish look to it. Oh and the NAO notably + doesnt help either. Just sharing what i see and what me thinks we have to look forward to in next couple weeks. Hoping I'm way off my rocker...

Sorry to hear this. NAM/HRRR both suggest that they should lessen as we approach noonish, but I'd bundle up for it nontheless. Thinking of you and your yours.

Looks like you mighta been more right for my neighborhood. Gusts to 32 Current obs here in Akron Partly Cloudy and Breezy 29°F -2°C Humidity 47% Wind Speed NW 23 G 32 mph Barometer 30.15 in (1021.6 mb) Dewpoint 11°F (-12°C) Visibility 10.00 mi Wind Chill 15°F (-9°C) Last update 6 Dec 7:53 am EST

They do have bite to them. Was surprised when I went out to get wood at 5am at how gusty it still was. Cams look like a winter wonderland for norther/westers. Tug looks good for Snodeo weekend as well (well its usually this weekend anyway).

Hope we can score a little backend lovin, cause if ENS and telles are correct, a zonalish flow that floods conus w/ pacific air looks like it will be taking over for the foreseeable future. Hoping we can change that before Santa gets here.

LMAO. Well played.

No worries....It'll change by 300-500 miles for HH.

so many responses come to mind..... I'll stop now

if your unit is five around... Impressive. We all tip our hat to you.

looked like that much of the time. If you have a chance to get up there..do it. Not sure how long it will last, and don't make the mistake I did last year thinking it would. I missed much of it as a result. Glad to be able to cash in on first snowy period for the northers/westers. Hopefully more to come.

Sure is. Great store (but seems to cater to the well off, as its a tad pricey, but as it's not a chain, they don't have the buying power that Wallys and the like do. If you want to support a great local store, check em out. Your wife would likely enjoy as well.

Thanks for the kind words. Was a winter wonderland. We busted our butts chasin em round the big woods. Lotsa miles logged on my GPS. Blessed to be able to get around like I do with those that I do it with. I do pretty well for an old(ish) fart. 3 harvested. Me - 8pt and doe (w/ muzzleloader and bullets similar to those used back in mid/late 1800's - as i like to make things more difficult on myself and try to incorporate some old era "tradtional" stuff w/ modern era. Brother - doe Hoping yall had nice holiday.

Nothing at all in Akron/Ephrata. On way into office early this AM, north of Lititz in the hamlet of Elm, was "big" winner with slightly more than cartopper, as some slush was evident on back roads. Here in etown, barely a dusting.

Finally back from my trip up north. Hi temp observed in a 5.5 day trip was 27 and low was 17. Arrived w/ 4" otg and snowed every day. We left w/ 6" otg, with 2-4" addl being called for w/ current event. Fantastic trip w/ fam/friends. Was nice to see/feel winter. Good luck to all today.

My old bones agree, but my youthful mind is with the others....

you summed it up rather perfectly. Thanks for chiming in. Good to hear from ya.

Agreed. That sure would open the window for bigger things. Lets hope thats where this heads and not back to pig ridge/WAR in the east. Been there...did that a plenty. Time for a new regime (for as long as we can anyway as long rangers suggest Dec is our time to score.) I'm headed off grid for the next week. Dont miss me too much yall.