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Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Wow. You and @anothermanhave echoed my sentiments exactly. As soon as the sun sets before 5:00 (which occurs a few days after returning to standard time) there is that mental connection that Thanksgiving and the Holiday season are just around the corner. And it kind of marks the beginning of snow opportunities as well. And with each passing day those chances increase. I could go on and on. I'm sure it's connected to my age (now) in some way. For most of us we've never not had the return to standard time. And now we must face the fact that there will only be one more chance to "fall back" later this year. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Was that a joke? Trick or treating already takes place while on Daylight Saving Time. Standard does not kick in until the first Sunday in November. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Well...when I shared the Daylight Saving Time news with my wife she immediately said to me, "doesn't it now have to pass through the house?" I got temporarily excited, thinking that right now it wasn't a done deal. However, then I proceeded to think that probably pretty easily a majority, which will be comprised of both sides, will be in favor of this. So, I guess I can pray for a miracle now? -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
And, for us in this forum, it means we'll never see the GFS run before 11:30pm and the Euro before 2.30am ever again. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Do you mean we'll never go back to Eastern Standard Time? DST=Daylight Saving Time which above states that this S.623 makes DST permanent. If so, I will be so incredibly disappointed. That means the earliest the sun can ever set is 5:43pm around here in perpetuity. As I said yesterday, it also means that the sun won't rise until 8:30am for nearly 5 weeks after the winter solstice. That means it will be totally dark until 8:00am. YUCK! -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
High yesterday was 60.4 and the low yesterday was 20.1. That produced another 40-degree diurnal for the season. My snow (which was only 2.3" max) and was located in a no-sun area close to my house, managed to survive until yesterday evening when the extended warmth of the day finally took it out. Low this morning was 29.7 right after sunrise. Temp now has rebounded up to 53, headed for the 60's this afternoon. Beware the Ides of March... -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
The clipper appears to be making its way across our state. The first piece of it just passed over me but nothing falling from the sky yet. If Blue Mountain doesn't screw things up like it often time does, the pretty solid batch of snow showers may make it to me. If I see anything I'm only expecting flurries or maybe a period of showers. My max temp today was only 33.4 degrees with the sun out just before the clouds rolled in. I'm at 32.5 at the moment. Shaded areas of my yard lost almost nothing today. Sunny spots lost some, but not all snow cover. It feels like midwinter out there with the wind. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
At close to noon I'm only up to 24.8 from my low of 16.9. I guess the strength of this arctic blast is stronger now than the models first projected...at least as far as limiting today's max temps. If I had to guess I'd say my high is going to turn out to be close to 32. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Haha...I was also thinking of you when I wrote that since I know we both feel the same way about this topic. To be honest, I wouldn't mind doing the switching if the timeframe went back to being equal with six months of both. Also, I need to correct what I said to @mahantango#1above...he was closer to being right than I was. Here's a history clip from the web about the temporary expansion of DST... Following the 1973 oil embargo, the US Congress extended the DST period to 10 months in 1974 and 8 months in 1975, in an effort to save energy. After the energy crisis was over in 1976, the DST schedule in the US was revised several times. From 1987 to 2006, the country observed DST for about 7 months each year. Apparently my memory isn't quite a good as I thought it was...lol. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
You remember that also? Actually, it was only done once, around New Year's 1973 when President Nixon took the country back to daylight saving. I'll never forget that because suddenly it was still dark at 8:00am as I was getting ready for school. I'm fine with it getting dark early because it is a reminder that winter is coming and we have the most protection from the sun for any snowpack. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
So whose side are you on? Mine where we return to standard time permanently? Or @Festus' who wants perpetual daylight saving? By the way, Festus, I had heard a few years back that congress was entertaining the idea of taking the country back to standard time permanently. I think there are 3 states that don't observe daylight saving...Arizona, parts of Indiana, and Hawaii. They would be the most upset about being forced to daylight saving. The one interesting thing that people wouldn't think about is that if we were on daylight saving time at the end of December around the solstice, the sun wouldn't rise until 8:30am for nearly the next 3 weeks! -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Actually this is not surprising. When there are very windy conditions following an arctic blast, the surface temp is dictated by what's going on aloft. The 500mb thickness level bottomed out close to 504dm around 10:00pm. For the rest of the night it will begin to rise. Temps at the 850 level also play a role. The temperature at that level also reached its bottom at -18 degrees C around the same time. It also begins a slow rise higher throughout the night reaching -12 at 12z. Therefore as long as the wind remains substantial it is not likely that our overnight temp drops more than a degree or two lower by morning. Only if the winds diminished to less than 5mph would the snowpack then contribute to radiational cooling. As I type this it is now midnight and my temp is sitting at 20.3 degrees and has only fluctuated a few tenths over the past 4 hours. It actually bottomed at 19.9 at 10:38pm and has risen slightly. It's quite possible our temps don't drop at all from whatever level they're presently sitting at. In this case elevation dictates how cold it is...more or less...referring to constant winds > 10mph. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
@ItstrainingtimeI'm surprised you didn't think of all days in weather history...the Superstorm! Tomorrow is the 29th anniversary. You were mentioning low temps for today, late this afternoon in the low 20's. Well, back on 3/13/93 I was 17 degrees with heavy sleet in the middle of the afternoon. Today's weather had tidbits of weather elements that came with the superstorm...but definitely not the barometric pressure, which was 30 millibars lower than today's minimum pressure of 1001. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
I can't get over how @Blizzard of 93 has had double the snowfall and conditions that I've almost never had during this storm. About a half hour ago I had several wind gusts into the 30's with wildly blowing snow...but that only lasted a few minutes. It's been snowing mainly lightly since 1:00 but not enough to accumulate further. The winds which had been pretty breezy have backed off a bit, although I'm getting a good gust as I write this. Back at 1:00 I recorded no additional accumulation with a storm total of 2.3". Temp continues to drop, now down to 23.5 which is the low of the day. The max, at midnight was 46.7. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
At 12:00 noon it continues to snow lightly and there is some blowing snow taking place now. Since my report 30 minutes ago only an additional 0.1" of new snow has fallen. Since 11:00am an additional 0.3" has fallen bringing the storm total to 2.3". The temp is beginning to fall again and after rising to 28 it has fallen back to 27.0. The pressure has leveled off at 1001 millibars and has been steady for the past several hours. Wind continue to ramp up, sustained between 10-15mph, gusting occasionally to 25mph. Judging by the radar it looks like the snow portion of this storm is about to rapidly wind down for me, meaning that my storm total will likely be just under 2.5". >>Yes, my NWS feed is also screwed up. It says that I am still in a winter storm watch (the one from yesterday) as well as a winter storm warning. Interesting. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Here's an intermediate update as of 11:30am, the heavy snow has ended and it's back to light to occasionally moderate. The heavy burst, which lasted less than 20 minutes, deposited only another 0.2" giving a storm total of 2.2". I think there's partial melting or compacting going on even though the temp, which dropped to 27.3, has risen back up to 27.9. The winds are definitely beginning to pick up, now easily gusting over 20mph and sustained around 10mph. Not much in the way of blowing snow so far. According to Blizz, just 20 miles east of me, it is a whole different world with the heavy snow and blowing snow. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Sadly, today is the last day of nature's true time...standard time. Tomorrow morning at 2:00am we jump forward to 3:00am as daylight saving time begins and lasts for the next 8 months! It used to be 50/50 with the time split...but then Congress had to stick their nose into it and pull back the start time. The first time, in the late 80's they pared it back three weeks to the first Sunday in April. Then they decided that wasn't enough and at some point in the late 90's they pulled it back 3 more weeks to the second Sunday in March. Oh, I forgot, around 15 years ago they delayed the return to standard time by pushing it from the last Sunday in October to the first Sunday in November. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Finally! Best flakes and heaviest the snow has been the whole storm. I'm in that heavy band now. Started about 10 minutes ago. As 11:00am the temperature was down to 27.5 degrees and heavy snow was falling. During the past hour 0.3" of new snow accumulated...all of that in the past 15 minutes. Storm total now is 2.0". Well, at least my grass is completely covered now...lol. Amazingly my street has been melting and has very little snow left on it. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Wow!! By some of the "ripping" and "whiteout" reports I thought you were really getting the goods. So far does that mean that @Bubbler86has the most with close to 5"? -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
At 10:00am in Carlisle it is snowing lightly with an occasional moderate burst. Temp has dropped further to 28.2 degrees. Winds are a bit stronger but still below 15mph sustained. I hate to say it but it's looking more and more likely that this storm isn't meant to be for me. As of now WHTM's C-2" is on the money. During the past hour I picked up an additional 0.2" for a storm total of 1.7". Looking at radar, if I'm lucky that big band that looked like the heaviest of the storm will be approaching my area within the next hour or so. Maybe that will be enough to push me over the 2" mark? Definite congrats to York/Lanco folks who definitely deserved a good one this time around! -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
At 9:00am in Carlisle the temperature is down to 29.5 degrees. During the past hour only an additional 0.3" of snow has fallen (sadly). This brings the storm total to 1.5". Winds have been variable between <5mph to up to 15mph. The snow intensity was never more than moderate and with fine flakes not much accumulated. Let's see what the next hour brings. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
At 8:00am in Carlisle the temperature has dropped to 31.3 degrees. It dropped below freezing about 30 minutes ago. It is snowing moderately with finer flakes. The winds were practically calm 30 minutes ago but now have begun to pick up...5-10 mph. New snow and storm total is 1.2". Looking great out there. Aren't Saturday snowstorms great? Remember Jan '16? -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Yes. It did accumulate on the highways. NWS warned of that in their warning. It took the two ingredients you always need....temps below freezing, the lower the better, and sustained heavy rates of inch per hour or greater. That's why I'm expecting no problems with road accumulations here tomorrow. The temp will be getting progressively colder, and we'll have several hours of fantastic rates. I don't expect the roads to have as much as the grass, but it won't be far behind. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Last year, I think in September, out in the Denver area they were experiencing record high temps near 100 degrees. Later that same day they were under a Winter Storm watch with temperatures in the 90s...(later a warning) for temperatures plunging into the 20's with six inches of snow by noon the following day. That is easily the most extreme example of the weather flipping from summer to winter in a matter of hours I've ever heard of. My brother-in-law lives in Golden, the foothills west of Denver and reported to me about those conditions. That makes today going into tomorrow look practically like a mediocre event...lol. -
Central PA - Winter 2021/2022
CarlislePaWx replied to Bubbler86's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
They must be having data problems. I'm glad to hear the warning is issued. But as @Itstrainingtimejust said it would be nice to see the details. I'm sure it will finally update before midnight. Thanks for the input/corroboration.