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12 hours ago, bluewave said:
The first hint something unusual was going on was when NYC tied the all-time lowest August temperature at the end of the month of 50°. Several NW suburbs actually dropped into the upper 30s on August 31st. This was followed up by 2nd lowest October temperature of 29° in NYC. The locally colder spots were able to dip below 20. The historic cold continued with widespread single digits on December 3rd.This was the 2nd earliest single digits on record in NYC. So nothing like the climate of the early 2020s.
Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Aug
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.RankYearLowest Min TemperatureMissing Count1 1986 50 0 - 1982 50 0 - 1976 50 0 - 1965 50 0 - 1885 50 0
Monthly Data for August 1976 for Upton NY NWS CWA
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.StateNameStation TypeLowest Min TemperatureNY WALDEN 1 ESE COOP 37 CT DANBURY COOP 38 NY PORT JERVIS COOP 38 NY CARMEL COOP 39 CT WESTBROOK COOP 39 CT MOUNT CARMEL COOP 39 NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 39
Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Oct
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.RankYearLowest Min TemperatureMissing Count1 1936 28 0 2 1976 29 0 - 1925 29 0 - 1887 29 0 - 1879 29 0
Monthly Data for October 1976 for Upton NY NWS CWA
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.StateNameStation TypeLowest Min TemperatureCT STAMFORD 5 N COOP 16 NY WALDEN 1 ESE COOP 17 NY PORT JERVIS COOP 18
Data for December 3, 1976 through December 3, 1976
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.StateNameStation TypeLowest Min TemperatureCT NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT COOP 1 NY YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 1W COOP 2 NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 2 NY WALDEN 1 ESE COOP 3 NY BEDFORD HILLS COOP 3 NY PORT JERVIS COOP 4 CT STAMFORD 5 N COOP 4 CT DANBURY COOP 4 NY CARMEL COOP 5 CT MOUNT CARMEL COOP 5 CT GROTON COOP 5 NY MARYKNOLL COOP 5 NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 6 NJ CRANFORD COOP 7 NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 7 NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 7 NY SUFFERN COOP 7 NY MIDDLETOWN 2 NW COOP 7 NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 8 NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 8 NY SCARSDALE COOP 8 CT WESTBROOK COOP 8 NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 8 CT MIDDLETOWN 4 W COOP 8 NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 8 NJ JERSEY CITY COOP 9 NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 9 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 9 I remember it turning quite cool for a day or so right after Hurricane Belle went by in early August. Except for the sun angle it felt like mid September.
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1 hour ago, bluewave said:
Yeah, 76-77 was the only winter I experienced with little ice age style extended cold.
Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Dec through Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.RankSeasonNumber of Days Max Temperature <= 32Missing Count1 1976-1977 45 0 2 1917-1918 42 0 3 1880-1881 40 0 4 1903-1904 39 0 - 1884-1885 39 0 5 1935-1936 38 0 6 1919-1920 37 0 - 1904-1905 37 0 - 1892-1893 37 0 7 1977-1978 36 0 8 1887-1888 35 0 9 1878-1879 34 1 - 1872-1873 34 0 10 1933-1934 33 0 - 1874-1875 33 2
Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Dec through Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.RankSeasonNumber of Days Min Temperature <= 20Missing Count1 1917-1918 48 0 2 1880-1881 46 0 3 1976-1977 44 0 4 1935-1936 43 0 - 1919-1920 43 0 5 1933-1934 42 0 - 1903-1904 42 0 - 1874-1875 42 2 6 1884-1885 41 0 7 1872-1873 40 0 8 1892-1893 39 0 9 1906-1907 38 0 - 1887-1888 38 0 10 1993-1994 37 0 - 1871-1872 37 1 That kind of cold is incomprehensible these days. That 76-77 and 77-78 was amazing stuff. Pattern in 76-77 quickly collapsed in early February 77 from what I remember. I seem to remember walking home from school mid to late February and breaking a sweat. Good old days for sure. Not much snow 76-77, only one decent event but snow cover for a very long period of time as nothing melted from December through early February.
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Low of 18 with a breeze. Legit "hoodie weather".
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Moderate snow shower earlier (bordering on very briefly heavy) left the deck completely covered. Also whitened dirt and mulch beds with trace amounts scattered on the lawn. Some blowing around with a gusty wind.
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10 minutes ago, MJO812 said:
Same
Not even much of a risk to say 5X as much as last year.
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6 minutes ago, MJO812 said:
There are no indications that this winter will be a shutout.
I'll go out on a limb and say CP will see twice the amount of snow it saw last season.
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Per friend in Trenton moderate snow showers ongoing. Radar supports this. Dirt is white and starting to stick on the grass.
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1.46" rain for the recent event.
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Keep expectations in check and just know it has to be better than last year ! I am not expecting much from December based on current trends and guidance.
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No notable wind here but a solid soaking. Will measure shortly but eyeballing the gauge from a distance I'd say about 1.5". To be confirmed shortly.
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21 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:
Models all over the place for Sunday night. Cmc gives us 1 to 2"+. Euro <.25" west of city
Going to be a fun Winter.
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16 minutes ago, bluewave said:
Yeah, the model graphics off of the old Alden Difax machines were primitive compared to what we have today. Plus the accuracy of those old models was so low that it was the era of nowcasting many big events. I can remember all the paper jams in those old machines. But the April 1982 blizzard still stands as one of my favorite snowstorms of all time. Starting as rain and then changing to blizzard conditions with some of the most lightning I have ever seen with snow. To have early April heavy snow stick on the pavement in the afternoon with no trouble after rain with highs only in the 20s was like something out of the 1800s.
Waiting for the paper to dry before doing an analysis! Hitting refresh every 30 seconds waiting for the FOUS to arrive.
Checking for the latest PREXTD discussion (WSI) when something was pending and hoping that Weinbrenner or Ships wrote it.
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59 minutes ago, Dark Star said:
I vaguely yremember the April 82 Snowstorm. What I remember most about it was filling in for George Cullen at CBS NY Weather. I made an awful gaff for predicting a daytime temperature for the city of Chicago that Steve Deshler was not happy about. However, I noticed the LFM picking up the snowstorm. Irv Gikofsky laughed at my analysis.
Remember that weather office well! Small and rather cramped. Was there (WCBS TV) late 83 to early 86. Started on weekends working with Tom Chisholm and when Frank Field came over from NBC Irv was bumped to weekends and Tom was let go. Tom was great. George was a great and very funny guy. Ran into him many times as I was leaving on Sunday nights and he was coming in. Steve Baskerville was also quite humorous. Also worked with John Coleman on occasion. Nice guy but a bit of a loose cannon when it came to forecasting. Tried to reel in in a few times but he wanted no part of it. I was right every time but it went unspoken about. Moving from the old office to the new one was a refreshing experience. We got a WINDOW ! Many stories I could tell.
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27 here.
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Cold morning with frost. Low of 32. Nice weather but I'd rather watch oil based paint dry. Boring pattern continues.
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NJ October weather Summary:
https://www.njweather.org/content/tranquility-october-2023-recap
Seems like November continues the trend of October. Zzzzzzzz for at least the next week to 10 days. Nothing resembling a good cold shot in our immediate future that's for sure.
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18 minutes ago, qg_omega said:
Zzzzz this month
You aren't kidding. At least for the next 7-10 days a real snooze fest. Boring.
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Low this morning was 24.8. Heavy frost and killing freeze.
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Overnight low of 36 here.
Rainfall for October at my location was a rather scant 2.12".
Wet year to date at 49.80".
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Low of 37 here.
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Received .58" rainfall last two days. Kind of needed it to moisten the soil, been on the dry side last two weeks. Enjoying the cooler weather after the warm days.
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December 2023
in New York City Metro
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and phasing with the STJ if you want something to remember. The STJ will be present for sure but without some stream interaction we could be on the the northern edge of things. Not to mention (as you did) the cold air supply.