The GFS and GEM both have the storm. That's all we want 8-9 days out!! Does anyone really wanna be in the bullseye now??? The way some of u people act ud think you never followed the models lol sad!!. As long as the models are showing the storm 190 hours out us all I care about. Thermal profiles 8 to 9 days out are as reliable as my first wife was faithful. Jesus relax people. Don't jump off the cliff till we're at within 72 hours out lol