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this looks like decent news. can't vouch for the validity, but it is a New York news site: Spectrum News NY1 @NY1 · 58m Cuomo says New York will be sending 100 ventilators to Michigan and 50 to Maryland.

another socio-economic side effect: https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/tarrant-county/3-year-old-fort-worth-boy-fatally-injured-easter-morning/287-f05393af-f696-4488-9df9-b9140b4e7600

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” United States Constitution, Amendment X

^ Every loss of life is heartbreaking. My condolences also. To further clarify here is the CDC's January 31 release he is referring too:,, Secretary Azar Declares Public Health Emergency for United States for 2019 Novel Coronavirus Health and Human Services Secretary Alex M. Azar II declared a public health emergency for the entire United States to aid the nation’s healthcare community in responding to 2019 novel coronavirus. “While this virus poses a serious public health threat, the risk to the American public remains low at this time, and we are working to keep this risk low,” Secretary Azar said. “We are committed to protecting the health and safety of all Americans, and this public health emergency declaration is the latest in the series of steps the Trump Administration has taken to protect our country.” The emergency declaration gives state, tribal, and local health departments more flexibility to request that HHS authorize them to temporarily reassign state, local, and tribal personnel to respond to 2019-nCoV if their salaries normally are funded in whole or in part by Public Health Service Act programs. These personnel could assist with public health information campaigns and other response activities. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is working closely with state health departments on disease surveillance, contact tracing, and providing interim guidance for clinicians on identifying and treating coronavirus infections. HHS is working with the Department of State to assist in bringing home Americans who had been living in affected areas of mainland China. HHS divisions also are collaborating with industry to identify and move forward with development of potential diagnostics, vaccines, and therapeutics to detect, prevent, and treat 2019-nCoV infections. In declaring the public health emergency, Secretary Azar acted within his authority under the Public Health Service Act. This declaration is retroactive to January 27, 2020.

This thread has gotten a bit to dark. I'll pop back in around the 15th of April to check in on the stats.

Damn... I thought this would at least get a weenie from Alek. Back to watching Ozark.

I was referring more to the fact it's being politicized. I have no doubt there is a lot that goes into it on a professional level.

What a world. We debate how someone should be classified in death, and just point fingers as to who's to blame versus pulling together and hoping this ends sooner rather than later and with less pain and sorrow for our fellow people. We really need a lot of folks to reexamine what's important starting with turning off your local and national news media outlets, and twitter pundits and focus on friends,family, and community. Bottom line, whether it's the virus itself or the residual damage we are all in for a very tough time. Time to take stock of what's important.

Alot more discussion on the after affects and the economy today which is interesting. I saw this as a retweet on twitter, and I'll assume it is accurate which would be a positive: The @IHME_UW model vs reality for New York State, April 5. The model is less accurate than ever. 69K beds projected, 16.5K actually needed; 12,346 ICU beds projected, 4376 needed. Even better (tho not for the model), overall bed count rose less than 600 statewide - less than 4%.

I could see someone just getting out in the car and blasting The Clash or Luke Bryan just to blow off some steam ....or The Cars.....

While I can't predict the eventual fall out from this, and the debate that will rage after the fact, in my area I'm not seeing the idea that people aren't doing what's necessary. Take a look at the unemployment rate, closed businesses, sports shut down and so on.....strangely public transportation still operates. And as I said yesterday, my local grocer is pretty much vacant, and people stay well away from anyone. You'd think in a hot spot like your area this would be the same. Truth be, folks look scared shitless...

Has anybody heard how Japan is doing and what type of lock downs they have in place?

Thank you for a clear cut understanding of the difference. Much appreciated.

thank you.

But wouldn't the same concerns exist in the H1N1 pandemic? Also, is there a site that shows actual hospital bed availability as this virus continues to ramp up?

you seem very knowledgeable on this stuff. Can you provide the reason for the mass shutdowns and government intervention in this pandemic vs the H1N1 pandemic about a decade ago? I've chalked it up to the rapid spread and the unknowing factor of exactly what we are dealing with. But would love a more professional bend on the issue. Thanks.

I'm not a blame guy in times of crisis. The Chinese Government thing is an altogether different animal which will have to play out.

I was at my local food store. Not many people at all. Most stay far away or head to a different aisle -common sense being applied which is very refreshing. Very concerned given the current projections what the next two weeks will bring. Has anybody seen that video of Dr. Fauci stating in mid-January that the U.S. has nothing to worry about? Eye opening to say the least.

That projected number of 100,000-240,000 deaths Dr. Fauci has been warning is a scary number...though I guess it's not as bad as some of the earlier forecasts of a more than a million. And obviously, the socio-economic impact will take months to filter through. My understanding is 50% of our countries deaths have occurred in NY and the fatality rate has crept up to near 2.5% which is also concerning.

do they project 100,000-240,000 we are currently expecting?

^ or not.

Son got furloughed today. Wife who is a parochial school teacher has to take a 33 1/3 % pay cut .

It's real life, and sometimes it best to be patient and watch. And no, it's not a movie..........yet.

This is extremely sad, but a story that needs to be followed up on due to it's obvious ramifications: “There has never before been a death associated with COVID-19 in an infant. A full investigation is underway to determine the cause of death,” said IDPH Director Dr. Ngozi Ezike. “We must do everything we can to prevent the spread of this deadly virus. If not to protect ourselves, but to protect those around us.