Lava Rock

Why aren't we looking at places like India and UK as far as the delta surge (I hate the word surge) is concerned, where in those countries they had a spike for ~4-6 wks, then it caved. We're acting is if this is going to be a long protracted increase in cases, regardless of what the hospitalizations/deaths look like. It's just crazy how quick policies and such are changing. Pelosi ordering Capitol police to arrest those not masking??

we are blowing our load on precip. Winter might be in trouble. Cold and dry?

1.11" overnight.

5 knuckle shuffle

Copied from FB [emoji16] I'm confused Actual conversation a friend had with the CDC this week. ME: CDC, should I get poke if I already had Covid? CDC: “Yes, you should be poked regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19.” ME: Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does poke-induced immunity last? CDC: “There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are poked.” ME: Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the poke was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long poke immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the poke immunity better than my natural immunity? CDC: … ME: Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades? CDC: Yes. NEWYORKTIMES: “Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.” ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity? CDC: Possibly. You never know. ME: Okay. If I get the poke, does that mean I won’t get sick? BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are poked people. ME: CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the poke? CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them. ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases? CDC: That’s right. ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the poke, how is it helping me? CDC: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death. ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death. CDC: We don’t know “exactly.” ME: Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is? CDC: We don’t know, okay? Next question. ME: Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the poke, is there any reason I should get it? CDC: Yes, for the collective. ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting poked? CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die. ME: Can a poked person spread the virus to someone else? CDC: Yes. ME: So if I get poked, I could still spread the virus to someone else? CDC: Yes. ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get poked was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the poke? CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unpoked, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the pokes protection, putting all poked people at risk. ME: So the poke stops the virus from mutating? CDC: No. ME: So it can still mutate in poked people? CDC: Yes. ME: This seems confusing. If the poke doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting poked help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the poke? CDC: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unpoked, you pose a threat to poked people. ME: But what KIND of threat?? CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die. ME: My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the poke doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying poked people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the poke just by running into an unpoked person! Which is it?? CDC: That’s it, we’re hanging up now. ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get poked, because we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don’t know how long poke immunity lasts. And I should get the poke to keep a poked person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the poke, I can give it to the poked person anyways. And, the other poked person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right? ME: Um, hello? Is anyone there? Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk

How are we/they defining a breakthrough case? What is the criteria? Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk

Lol, I do the same feeds when I'm bored. Do you feel guilty doing that at work? Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk

There goes PFZ and MRNA's stock.

Just scored 0.37" in the appetizer round.

has there been any data yet showing that vax'd people have comparable viral load to non-vax and/or that vax'd can just as easily spread virus as non-vaxed. I thought Fauci said couple months ago that the reason vax'd could start to mingle with other vax'd without masks was because the risk of spread was negligible.

how long we going to have to wait to determine this? UK seems to be coming down from their peak and don't think there was large uptick is hospitalizations and deaths. It really seems we are heading toward a zero policy.

I'm just waiting for the waning vax immunity stories of the elderly who were vaccinated first that now risk infection yet again. Maybe less severe, maybe not, but we'll be starting all over again.

Covid does infect more males than females, but nearly 90% here is high and heavily skewed.

From the article: "With little sign that of restrictions reducing infections, Berejiklian said new curbs would be imposed on the southwestern and western areas of Sydney where the majority of COVID-19 cases are being found. Residents there will be forced to wear masks outdoors and to stay within five km (three miles) of their homes."

Back lawn looks pretty good. All it takes is lots of July rains.

Ha, I've slowed down too, but the the other driver waves me through Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk

which supports my earlier statement that our cdc is overreacting

lol, I hate that sometimes. Then two cars start to go and nearly hit each other. At any 4-way, my approach is whoever gets there 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc gets to go first in the order received. I thought it was common sense stuff, but some people like to screw with it.

what's NYC's current rate per 100K? Maine adds mask requirements to two counties, but NYC doesn't have any? wtf

would be interesting to see how this would turn out had one of the spouses not been vaxed

74/54. Keep this weather coming and the hot sticky dews outta here.

gotcha. forgot you were going there. enjoy the trip!

want a bet? things are moving quickly. I hope everyone enjoyed their two months of "freedom"

That's not stopping Maine CDC from requiring masks again in public places, effective today. I don't know if it'll be statewide or not, but details to come. Total over reaction.