I think 89 might have been the last time we had a white thanksgiving and Christmas. Not sure we have ever had a white Halloween. But being 2020 you never know.
It seems like whatever condition...Nina, Nino, neutral..the temps always show some shade of orange for winter outlooks in our region. It’s baked into the cake.
I would be shocked if I ever saw the 3 month Temp outlook on CPC colored anything but red hues. All orange all the time. AN is the new normal I suppose.