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Everything posted by NittanyWx
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I'm thinking the inversion holds north of the Island but I don't feel great about it. This isn't good for LI.
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Think I'd be taking the unders there given trends today. I know what they're thinking with the easterly fetch, but the mid levels always seem to warm quicker than progged. I also don't get the 7" in Monticello, seems very high.
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Unless things change drastically everyone is changing over within 3 hours of precip onset. It is a very, very brief window it can snow here before the column warms. GFS this AM has the 0C 850 isotherm north of 287 by between 11pm and 12 AM Monday. You'd need the entire mid-level low structure shifted about 150-200 miles to make this work.
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I am very interested in the timing of high tide vs LLJ cranking as this storm develop for Jersey. Thankfully I believe that has the worst of the winds are in between high tide cycles, but subtle differences in timing could make for a pretty rough coastal flooding situation.
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A small period is fine. I'd take the under on snow duration even up by 287/80 if thats the setup we get, you'll warm the 900-700 column very quickly with that setup. That's not to say the GFS is even right on the the track or occlusion timing, but that 700mb low track is no good. This ain't it.
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I know what I'm looking at. And that is not snow 15 miles inland for any appreciable length of time with those mid levels. That is a screaming SE wind.
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I know exactly what I'm looking at and that's flipping over to sleet regardless of whether you're 15 miles inland or not. You have a screaming SE fetch at the surface and mid-levels. That type of track is not producing 12 hours of 'snow' 15 miles inland.
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The kicker is annoying me. Lotta potential here but it's too many little vorts and a displaced baroclinic zone. May have to wait until next week.
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I'm using 2-5" right now and think I'll stay there unless the meso's really start going en mass towards a clean fronto band. I see the potential I'm just not willing to commit to it yet. Low side of range for those in jersey and lower Hudson valley, higher side potential for the south shore/east end.
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I've long felt the consistent tinkering of these models is becoming a fools errand on several fronts and leading to more significant forecaster error. A lot of these billed upgrades lead to only minor skill improvements and the yearly updates in an attempt to bias correct make it exceedingly difficult to figure out what those biases are from year to year. Bybthe time you get the bias down it changes. That said, the one constant bias has been Euro massively overdoing low level cold after a snowfall.
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Essentially trying to thread the needle...any small piece goes wrong and the whole system is a dud for the immediate local area. Some interesting mid month trends, though I'd like to see this roll out of the 11-15 before getting too confident in this temporary relaxing of standing wave.
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It's well correlated with this impressive warm pool in the WPac. The problem isn't just the standing wave as it's also generating Rossby waves that are continuing to cause wave breaking and amping this Aleutian ridge. It's a tough cycle to break out of right now. It can snow, but it is significantly more difficult with this background state and it continues to be conducive to causing this PNA to dip and a lack of appreciable HP in Eastern Canada, especially with the Atlantic side looking as it does. I think there are sub seasonal periods where you might be able to hit the sweet spot if you can eject a KW and/or get some westward propagation from an ERW timed with that. Breaks the cycle of wave breaking for a few days and may allow the Aleutian ridge to roll over and dump some of this further east. But right now this remains a challenge.
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I say this every year and no one ever listens.
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Hard to dislodge this Aleutian piece balance of Dec. Threading the needle difficult as PNA dives and lack of source air. It's very hard to get E Canada HP in a pattern like this. Think this takes a bit of time to unwind.
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For me it's more a matter of if you can leak some air east behind one of these storms, have some HP and can get a little SW riding the boundary between the antecedent airmass and that ridge. That's how you thread the needle in this type of pattern. It's a tougher ask.
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I've read this 3x and I still don't know what you're trying to say.
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Not loving these west/Pac trends last few runs. Path of least resistance is to dump this cold air supply west, makes for a trickier situation if we can bleed something east storm wise.
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The big issue with P 7-8-1 in healthy Nina's like this is the tendency for subsidence over CPac. It's a seasonal standing wave issue
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Well that GOA ridge didnt last long on the EC Ens...